Induced voltage and current in an odd scenario

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of induced voltage and current in a conductor due to a charged ion moving through a homogeneous magnetic field created by two strong magnets. The inquiry touches on theoretical aspects, mathematical modeling, and practical approaches to solving the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to calculate the induced voltage in a conductor when a charged ion travels through a magnetic field, suggesting that there is a change in the magnetic field.
  • Another participant mentions the use of Maxwell's Equations and the complexity of performing triple integrals in 3D space, noting that the calculations depend on the specific geometry of the fields and the path of the ion.
  • A third participant expresses familiarity with Maxwell's equations and proposes that the approach may involve an integral related to the change in magnetic flux over time, although they express uncertainty about the completeness of this approach.
  • A later reply suggests using finite element analysis as a potential method to approach the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the best method to calculate the induced voltage, with multiple approaches and uncertainties expressed throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the magnetic field and the geometry involved, as well as the dependence on the specific path of the charged ion, which remain unresolved.

FilipLand
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Hi! I have a question about induces volatge and current in an odd scenario.

Suppose we have a leader in a homogeneous magnetic field caused by two strong magnets (btw, which causes the strongest magnetic field?). Assume now that a charged ion travels through the magnetic field. It will mean a change in the magnetic field (although the change is small). How can you calculate the voltage will be induced in the conductor?
 
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You use Maxwells Equations and you need to do triple integrals in 3D space. The answers depend on the exact 3D geometry of the fields and wires and the path of the Ion.

Saying that was easy, but doing the calculations is pretty difficult. How are your calculus skills?
 
Thanks for your answer!

Well I am pretty familliar with Maxwells equations indirectly. (On my first year in Theoretical physics batchelor program).

But I guess it will be an intergral of some sort since the charged particle will come closer the conductor because of Lorenz force. Mabye something like the integral of -dPHI/dt. And use the area of the particle or the conductor. But it seems wrong and not to be all.

Do you know how to approach the problem?

Thanks in advance! :)
 
FilipLand said:
Do you know how to approach the problem?
Off the top of my head, I would say finite element analysis.
 

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