Inductance and solenoid question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the design of a solenoid intended to induce an electromotive force (emf) of approximately 2V by moving a magnet in and out of the coil. Participants explore the necessary specifications for the solenoid, including the number of wraps, length, and radius, while referencing Faraday's Law of induction and other related equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to understand how to calculate the change of flux over time and the change of current over time needed for the solenoid design.
  • Another participant confirms that the change of flux with respect to time does depend on how fast the magnet is moved in and out of the coil, referencing the equation ε = -N d(Φ)/dt.
  • It is noted that the total emf is the sum of the emf's for each winding of the solenoid, and that dB/dt must be determined for every winding based on the magnet's movement.
  • The original poster mentions that the magnet will be attached to a spring-loaded platform, which is expected to move at a decent speed due to a high spring constant.
  • A later reply suggests that while an approximate estimate of the emf can be made, the resulting waveform may not be sinusoidal.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relationship between the speed of the magnet and the induced emf, but there is no consensus on the specific calculations or expected waveform shape of the induced emf.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the specific calculations for the solenoid's specifications, and there may be assumptions regarding the uniformity of the magnetic field and the behavior of the magnet's movement that are not explicitly stated.

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Homework Statement



I am designing a solenoid for a project to meet several specifications. I am attempting to induce an emf of approximately 2V in my circuit by moving a magnet in and out of the coil. I know the magnet has an approximate field strength of 1T. I am trying to determine necessary solenoid specs (#of wraps, length, radius) based on these values to generate the emf.

However i am unsure how to calculate values such as change of flux over time and change of current over time needed to determine necessary coil characteristics.

Homework Equations



Faraday's Law of induction

ε = -dΦ/dt

Induction

L = μN^2A/L

Self Induced Emf

ε = -Ldi/dtCould the change of flux with respect to time depend based on how fast the magnet is moved in and out of the coil?

Appreciate any insight!
 
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kervyn said:


Could the change of flux with respect to time depend based on how fast the magnet is moved in and out of the coil?


Yes. That's what emf = -N d(phi)/dt says. Phi = B x area of coil. That goes for every winding in your solenoid. The total emf is the sum of the emf's for each winding since the windings are all in series. You will have to determine dB/dt for every winding. B is the field for a winding and dB/dt is how rapidly you're changing B by moving the magnet in & out of that winding. How were you thinking of moving the magnet?
 
rude man said:
Yes. That's what emf = -N d(phi)/dt says. Phi = B x area of coil. That goes for every winding in your solenoid. The total emf is the sum of the emf's for each winding since the windings are all in series. You will have to determine dB/dt for every winding. B is the field for a winding and dB/dt is how rapidly you're changing B by moving the magnet in & out of that winding. How were you thinking of moving the magnet?

Thanks for the response. The magnet will be attached to a spring loaded platform moving down and up. The spring constant is quite high so the magnet should move at a decent speed
 
OK. You can hope for a very approximate estimate of your emf with the magnet bobbing in & out, including magnitude and waveform shape. Don't expect a nice sinusoid! :-)
 

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