Inelastic collision for equal masses

Join the discussion
Ask a follow-up here, or get your own question answered by working scientists, mathematicians and engineers — people, not an autocomplete.
Real named experts · corrections over time · the nuance an AI answer skips
6 replies · 2K views
Mr Davis 97
Messages
1,461
Reaction score
44
Assume that we have two equal masses that collide horizontally, where one is initially at rest. From the conservation of linear momentum, we have
##P_0 = P##
##mv_{10} = mv_{1} + mv_{2}##
##v_{10} = v_{1} + v_{2}##

Assuming we have an initial velocity, it would seem as though the final velocity of mass 1 could add with the final velocity of mass 2 in order to equal the initial velocity. However, this is not the case because collisions don't act randomly like that. Therefore, what am I missing? I know that in elastic collisions, ##v_{10} = v_{2}## because of the additional constraint posed by the conservation of mechanical energy, but I claimed that this was an inelastic collision. Is there some constraint that I am missing?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
jbriggs444 said:
Equivocating on the variable ##m## ?
You might need to elaborate...
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
You might need to elaborate...
The problem is not fully specified. There are two unknowns, v1 and v2, and only one equation. One more condition comes from either stating that it is a completely inelastic collision,or stating the percentage of kinetic energy lost. Either one will give the necessary second condition.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Mr Davis 97
Chandra Prayaga said:
The problem is not fully specified. There are two unknowns, v1 and v2, and only one equation. One more condition comes from either stating that it is a completely inelastic collision,or stating the percentage of kinetic energy lost. Either one will give the necessary second condition.
That answers my question. Thanks.
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
I claimed that this was an inelastic collision. Is there some constraint that I am missing?
In a completely inelastic collision, the objects "stick together", which means that their velocities are equal after the collision.
 
One way to get a clear picture is to change coordinates to a center of mass system. In that case, after collision, neither object will be moving when the collision is completely inelastic.