Inertia and Density question help

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of determining the unique density distribution of the Earth based on its mass, radius, and moment of inertia, assuming the Earth is composed of N shells with constant density and thickness. Participants explore the implications of this assumption and the methods of measurement involved.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a unique density distribution can be determined, noting that uniform density can be calculated but expressing uncertainty about other distributions.
  • Another participant agrees that the solution is likely not unique, suggesting that multiple radial density distributions could yield identical moments of inertia.
  • A different participant outlines a mathematical framework, indicating that with 2N densities and thicknesses and only three equations, there appears to be an insufficient number of equations to solve for the densities uniquely, even for N=2.
  • One participant raises a point about the methods of measuring the Earth's mass and radius, suggesting that the composition is inferred from seismology and questioning the direct measurement of the Earth's moment of inertia through observations of the moon and the lengthening day.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the solution is not unique and that multiple density distributions could satisfy the given conditions. However, the discussion remains unresolved regarding the methods of measurement and the implications of the assumptions made.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the number of equations relative to the number of unknowns when considering the density distribution of the Earth. There is also a mention of the dependence on seismological data for inferring the Earth's composition.

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Assuming I have the mass, radius and moment of inertia of the earth, is it possible to determine the unique density distribution of the earth? The assumtion is the Earth is composed of N shells with constant density and thickness.

I don't think so, but I am not sure why or how...other than the uniform density can be calculated.

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I don't think the solution is unique. There may be many radial density distributions with identical moments of intertia
 
Well, you have 2N densities&thicknesses, and three equations as far as I can see:
1. The sum of the shell's masses equals the known mass
2. The sum of the thicknesses equals the radius
3. the sum of the moments of inertae equals the Earth's moment of inertia.

looks like a typical lack of equations to me, even for N=2! :smile:
 
SWiTCHRiDE said:
Assuming I have the mass, radius and moment of inertia of the earth
Hmm.. the radius of the Earth has long been measured, and its mass can be determined in a laboratory, but I thought the composition of the Earth was inferred from seismology - and moment of inertia perhaps from that. Of course, I wouldn't be wondering this is you wanted to calculate the density distribution of a golf ball, but is there a method of directly measuring the Earth's moment of inertia? Can you get it from simple observations of the moon and the lengthening day?
 

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