Inertia Tensor of a Hollow Sphere and of a Slender Rod

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the inertia tensor for a hollow sphere and a slender rod, specifically focusing on the limits of integration required for these shapes in the context of a calculus project.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to establish the limits for triple integrals for both the hollow sphere and the slender rod, expressing uncertainty about the correct setup.
  • Some participants suggest calculating the inertia tensor for solid spheres with different radii and using those results to derive the tensor for the hollow sphere.
  • Others question whether to use triple integrals for the solid spheres or if there are alternative methods available.
  • One participant proposes modifying the limits of integration for the hollow sphere based on the radius adjustments.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between the inertia tensors of solid and hollow spheres, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of explicit knowledge regarding inertia tensors and express concerns about the constraints of their project timeline and requirements. There is also mention of omitted components in the inertia tensor formulas, which could affect the calculations.

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Homework Statement


I need to find the Inertia Tensor of a Hollow Sphere and of a Slender Rod with center of mass set at the origin for my calculus 2 final project. I know how to do the triple integrals I am just having trouble figuring out what the limits should be for each of these shapes.

Attached is the my assignment, the ones I am referencing here are questions Three and Four.

Homework Equations


The components of the inertia tensor are
I_xx= ∭ (y^2+z^2 ) ρdv
I_yy= ∭ (x^2+z^2 ) ρdv
I_zz= ∭(x^2+y^2 ) ρdv
I_xy= I_yx= ∭xy ρdv
I_xz= I_zx= ∭xz ρdv

The Attempt at a Solution


I can't really start on the work until I know the limits...

However i know the limits of a filled sphere are
X= -R to R
Y = sqrt(R^2 -X^2)
Z = sqrt(R^2 -X^2-Y^2)
 

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For the hollow sphere, rather than trying to set up a triple integral for the inside and out side radii, why not determine the inertia tensor for a solid sphere with radius = Ro and the inertia tensor for another solid sphere with radius = Ri. Since both spheres have the same center point and axes references, the inertia tensor for the spherical shell can be easily determined. (Note: you have omitted Iyz from your formulas in the OP)
 
So are you saying I should do triple integrals for the sphere with radius Ro and Radius Ri, or is there some other method?

Sorry I'm being forced to do this for my Calculus Project with absolutely no knowledge of Inertia Tensors, I've pretty much tried to learn this in two weeks with nothing but my project as a reference.
 
I figured out how to do the rod one using the formula for a solid cylinder, but I am still stuck on the hollow sphere. Could I just take the integral of a sphere radius r and then compare it to an integral where I use the term r-1 instead of r in the limits?

I.E.

X = -sqrt((r^2)-(z^2)-(y^2)) to sqrt((r^2)-(z^2)-(y^2))
Y = -sqrt((r^2)-(z^2)) to sqrt((r^2)-(z^2))
Z =-R to R

and

X = -sqrt(((r-1)^2)-(z^2)-(y^2)) to sqrt(((r-1)^2)-(z^2)-(y^2))
Y = -sqrt(((r-1)^2)-(z^2)) to sqrt(((r-1)^2)-(z^2))
Z =-(R-1) to R-1
 
Anyone have any ideas?
 
Hint: If you find Ixxo for a sphere with radius Ro and Ixxi for a sphere with radius Ri, then for a hollow sphere with outer radius Ro and inner radius Ri, Ixx = Ixxo - Ixxi. Similar relationships exist for the other elements of the inertia tensor. This is a fundamental property of definite integrals: integral|0 to b - integral|0 to a = integral|a to b.

For symmetrical bodies, Ixy = Iyz = Ixz = constant. Care to guess what this constant is?

Let's see some calculations from you.
 
I figured out a way to do it without the triple integral but I want to let you know that I feel like you didn't understand what I was saying.

I couldn't show any calculations since all of my calculations would rely on the having upper and lower bounds to work with. Since I couldn't find said bounds I was lost.

Thanks for the help though!
 

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