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The discussion clarifies the representation of infinite and finite countable sets in mathematics. The set of all rational numbers is countably infinite, denoted as S = {x : x is rational} or S = {x : x ∈ Q}. For finite countable sets, T = {1, 2, 3, 4} is an acceptable representation, while T = {n ∈ rat. # : 1 ≤ n ≤ 4} inaccurately describes all rational numbers between 1 and 4, rather than just the integers 1 through 4.

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Ok I understand the concept of infinite countability and that say the set of all rational #s is infinitely countable, but if I needed to represent the set how do I do that? S={xε rat. # : x= k , k ε a rational #}? that doesn't seem right. Also say I wanted to show a set of finite countable numbers, I'm sure I can just write T={1,2,3,4} but shouldn't i do something more proper and state that T = {n ε rat. # : 1≤n≤4}? I just need help with how to properly represent sets- Thanks!
 
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hatsu27 said:
Ok I understand the concept of infinite countability and that say the set of all rational #s is infinitely countable
You are mixing up the terms. The positive integers and the rationals are countably infinite, and the reals are uncountably infinite. No set is described as being infinitely countable.
hatsu27 said:
, but if I needed to represent the set how do I do that? S={xε rat. # : x= k , k ε a rational #}? that doesn't seem right.
S = {x : x is rational}. Sometimes Q is used to represent rational numbers, so you could also say S = {x : x ##\in## Q}.
hatsu27 said:
Also say I wanted to show a set of finite countable numbers, I'm sure I can just write T={1,2,3,4}
This is an example of a finite set. The way you wrote it, above, is fine.
hatsu27 said:
but shouldn't i do something more proper and state that T = {n ε rat. # : 1≤n≤4}?
This would be all of the rational numbers between 1 and 4. This set is not the same as {1, 2, 3, 4}.
hatsu27 said:
I just need help with how to properly represent sets- Thanks!
 

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