Infinite series convergence question:

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of the infinite series \(\sum _{ n=1 }^{ \infty }{ \frac { { \alpha }^{ n }{ n }! }{ { n }^{ n } } }\) for values of \(|\alpha| < e\). Participants are exploring methods to prove this convergence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the ratio test for convergence and share their attempts at manipulating the series. There are questions about the relationship between \(\alpha\) and \(e\), and concerns about the limits obtained during the ratio test.

Discussion Status

Some participants have attempted the ratio test and are analyzing the results, while others suggest using Stirling's formula for a more rigorous approach. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods and interpretations, but no consensus has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the series and the potential need for additional justifications when applying certain mathematical tools, such as Stirling's formula.

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Homework Statement


Does [tex]\sum _{ n=1 }^{ \infty }{ \frac { { \alpha }^{ n }{ n }! }{ { n }^{ n } } }[/tex] converge [tex]\forall |\alpha |<e[/tex]
and if so, how can I prove it?



Homework Equations


[tex]{ e }^{ x }=\sum _{ n=0 }^{ \infty }{ \frac { { x }^{ n } }{ n! } }[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


In the case of e I get the strange and probably wrong [tex]\sum _{ n=1 }^{ \infty }{ \frac { { (\sum _{ n=0 }^{ \infty }{ \frac { 1 }{ n! } } ) }^{ n }{ n }! }{ { n }^{ n } } }[/tex]
which seems to be the boundary between convergence and divergence for the series, but I have no idea how to actually make anything of this.
 
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Contingency said:

Homework Statement


Does [tex]\sum _{ n=1 }^{ \infty }{ \frac { { \alpha }^{ n }{ n }! }{ { n }^{ n } } }[/tex] converge [tex]\forall |\alpha |<e[/tex]
and if so, how can I prove it?



Homework Equations


[tex]{ e }^{ x }=\sum _{ n=0 }^{ \infty }{ \frac { { x }^{ n } }{ n! } }[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


In the case of e I get the strange and probably wrong [tex]\sum _{ n=1 }^{ \infty }{ \frac { { (\sum _{ n=0 }^{ \infty }{ \frac { 1 }{ n! } } ) }^{ n }{ n }! }{ { n }^{ n } } }[/tex]
which seems to be the boundary between convergence and divergence for the series, but I have no idea how to actually make anything of this.

Have you tried the ratio test for convergence?
 
Yup.
I tried it on [tex]\frac { { \alpha }^{ n }{ n }! }{ { n }^{ n } }[/tex]
and ended up with: [tex]\lim _{ n\rightarrow \infty }{ \frac { { \alpha }^{ n }{ (n+1){ n }^{ n } } }{ { (n+1) }^{ n+1 } } }[/tex] but I don't see anything relating alpha to e.. I also don't know how to calculate that limit, I'm guessing it's zero but that would mean it's independent of alpha(≠0)..

EDIT: typo correction:
[tex]\lim _{ n\rightarrow \infty }{ \frac { { \alpha }{ (n+1){ n }^{ n } } }{ { (n+1) }^{ n+1 } } }[/tex]
 
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I'll try to manipulate the expression to get e out of the form of (1+1/n)^n
 
ah, I did the above and my result is that for any alpha>e the ratio test yields r>1 and for any alpha<e the ratio test yields r<1. I'll think about r=1
 
Contingency said:
Yup.
I tried it on [tex]\frac { { \alpha }^{ n }{ n }! }{ { n }^{ n } }[/tex]
and ended up with: [tex]\lim _{ n\rightarrow \infty }{ \frac { { \alpha }^{ n }{ (n+1){ n }^{ n } } }{ { (n+1) }^{ n+1 } } }[/tex] but I don't see anything relating alpha to e.. I also don't know how to calculate that limit, I'm guessing it's zero but that would mean it's independent of alpha(≠0)..

You need absolute values around that, and I don't think you get ##\alpha^n## after you simplify the ratio. Check that.
 
Contingency said:

Homework Statement


Does [tex]\sum _{ n=1 }^{ \infty }{ \frac { { \alpha }^{ n }{ n }! }{ { n }^{ n } } }[/tex] converge [tex]\forall |\alpha |<e[/tex]
and if so, how can I prove it?



Homework Equations


[tex]{ e }^{ x }=\sum _{ n=0 }^{ \infty }{ \frac { { x }^{ n } }{ n! } }[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


In the case of e I get the strange and probably wrong [tex]\sum _{ n=1 }^{ \infty }{ \frac { { (\sum _{ n=0 }^{ \infty }{ \frac { 1 }{ n! } } ) }^{ n }{ n }! }{ { n }^{ n } } }[/tex]
which seems to be the boundary between convergence and divergence for the series, but I have no idea how to actually make anything of this.

Use Stirling's formula for the asymptotic form of n!. You can even improve it to a rigorous inequality that holds for all n > 1 (even small values of n):
[tex]\sqrt{2\pi n} n^n e^{-n} < n! < \sqrt{2\pi n} n^n e^{\left(-n + \frac{1}{12n}\right)}.[/tex]
Note: the left-hand quantity above is Stirling's asymptotic approximation to n!; the right-hand quantity is an improvement, and it is surprising just how good it is: for n = 2 we get 2! = 2, but RHS = 2.000652048, 5! = 120, RHS = 120.0026371, etc. Various "simple" proofs of these inequalities are available; my favourite one is in Feller, "Introduction to Probability Theory", Vol. 1, Wiley 1968.

RGV
 
@MLCKurtz
Yes, I obtained alpha without an exponent, made a typo. Didn't forget the absolute value. Thanks
@Ray Vickson
Thanks for that reading material! I think i'll stick to my simpler idea, considering I don't have justifications to apply Stirling's formula (haven't gotten around to it yet).
 

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