Instrument to measure the frequency of sound

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding an accurate instrument to measure the frequency of sound produced by a vibrating violin string, specifically for a high school research essay. Participants explore various options, including physical instruments and mobile applications, while addressing the need for precision in frequency measurement.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses the need for a precise instrument to measure the frequency of a vibrating violin string, noting that previous attempts with a Labquest and vernier microphone were imprecise.
  • Another participant questions the type of frequency resolution desired and suggests consulting on-campus labs for available equipment.
  • Some participants clarify that there is typically no singular frequency for a violin, as multiple harmonics and overtones are present, prompting a discussion on whether the focus should be on the dominant frequency or all active frequencies.
  • A participant specifies they are only interested in obtaining the fundamental frequency and suggests a resolution of ±5Hz would be acceptable.
  • Suggestions include using tuning machines from band or orchestra departments and downloading apps like DA Tuner, Pano Tuner, and FFT Plot for frequency measurement.
  • One participant mentions having a tuner that is accurate to about 0.1Hz, while another shares their experience with a free app called Spectroid.
  • A participant reports successfully using the frequency counter app by cateater, indicating it works well for their needs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best instrument or method for measuring frequency, as multiple suggestions and preferences are presented, reflecting a range of opinions and experiences.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying degrees of precision and resolution requirements, indicating that the discussion is influenced by individual needs and experiences with different measurement tools.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for high school students or educators seeking methods to measure sound frequency accurately, as well as individuals interested in the technical aspects of sound measurement instruments.

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I need an instrument to measure the frequency of the sound of a vibrating violin string for a high school research essay. I tried using a Labquest and a vernier microphone to measure but it was way too imprecise. I need the instrument to very accurate in measuring Hz as the nature of my essay needs the data to be precise. Are there any instruments suitable? Thank you!
 
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What type of frequency resolution are you looking for? Are you wanting to see the different frequency components in the spectrum? Talk with somebody in one of the on campus labs to see if they have some equipment you could use.
 
Dong Min said:
I need an instrument to measure the frequency of the sound of a vibrating violin string for a high school research essay. I tried using a Labquest and a vernier microphone to measure but it was way too imprecise. I need the instrument to very accurate in measuring Hz as the nature of my essay needs the data to be precise. Are there any instruments suitable? Thank you!

First of all, there is usually no "THE" frequency of a violin, or any musical instruments for that matter. You may have one main, dominant frequency, but you will also get overtones of other harmonics along with that frequency.

So, as been asked, what exactly are you trying to measure here? Are you simply wanting to know the dominant frequency, or are you also trying to measure ALL the active frequencies that are emitted for a particular note? And how accurate do you want this? Simply stating that it was "too imprecise" is very vague. You need to state the kind of resolution you want.

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
First of all, there is usually no "THE" frequency of a violin, or any musical instruments for that matter. You may have one main, dominant frequency, but you will also get overtones of other harmonics along with that frequency.

So, as been asked, what exactly are you trying to measure here? Are you simply wanting to know the dominant frequency, or are you also trying to measure ALL the active frequencies that are emitted for a particular note? And how accurate do you want this? Simply stating that it was "too imprecise" is very vague. You need to state the kind of resolution you want.

Zz.
I'm only looking to obtain the fundamental frequency of the sound produced and not its overtones. And on the resolution, having thought about it, I don't mind too much on the resolution of the device, something along the lines of ±5Hz would be nice.
 
scottdave said:
What type of frequency resolution are you looking for? Are you wanting to see the different frequency components in the spectrum? Talk with somebody in one of the on campus labs to see if they have some equipment you could use.
Alright, thank you!
 
Or maybe the band or orchestra department has a tuning machine which will show frequency. I just thought about this: You can download apps which will display this information, in fact. Check them with a known source to see how they are. Two that I've used are DA Tuner and Pano Tuner.
 
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scottdave said:
Or maybe the band or orchestra department has a tuning machine which will show frequency. I just thought about this: You can download apps which will display this information, in fact. Check them with a known source to see how they are. Two that I've used are DA Tuner and Pano Tuner.

That is actually a good point, because I forgot about this.

I know that a couple of my students have used an iOS app called FFT Plot, which gives you the real-time frequency spectrum of a sound. It isn't a free app, from what I remember.

Zz.
 
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I just thought about this: You can download apps which will display this information, in fact. Check them with a known source to see how they are. Two that I've used are DA Tuner and Pano Tuner.
I use Spectral Pro spectrum analyzer.
 
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Tuners are sold in most music stores and online. I have one I got online for $US24 - accurate to about 0.1Hz - of course the tuner gnome hid it - I can't find it right now to give specifics.
 
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There is one I have on my Android phone called Spectroid. It is free
 
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Thanks guys, I got the frequency coutner by cateater on the app store (some of the android apps are not on the app stores). Nonetheless, it seems to be working pretty well.
 

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