Integrable Function on $[0,1]$: Proving a Limit

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The discussion revolves around proving a limit involving an integrable function on the interval $[0,1]$. Participants explore the mathematical steps necessary to demonstrate that the limit of a specific summation converges to an integral expression. The focus is on mathematical reasoning and techniques related to integration and limits.

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  • One participant suggests rewriting $n-k$ as a sum and reversing the order of the sums to tackle the problem.
  • Another participant provides a detailed breakdown of the limit, introducing the function $F(x) = \int_0^x f(t) \, dt$ and manipulating the summation to show its relationship to the integral.
  • The same participant discusses the convergence of the Riemann sum to the integral $\int_0^1 F(x) \, dx$ as $n$ approaches infinity.
  • Integration by parts is mentioned as a method to relate the limit to the integral $\int_0^1 (1 - x) f(x) \, dx$.

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Participants do not reach a consensus, as the discussion includes various approaches and manipulations without a definitive resolution of the limit's proof.

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The discussion includes complex mathematical steps and assumptions that may not be fully resolved, such as the conditions under which the limit and integrals are valid.

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For any integrable function on $[0,1]$ prove that $\displaystyle \mathop {\lim }\limits_{n \to \infty } \frac{1}{n}\sum\limits_{k = 0}^{n - 1} {(n - k)\int_{\frac{k}{n}}^{\frac{{k + 1}}{n}} {f(x)\,dx} } = \int_0^1 {(1 - x)f(x)\,dx} .$
 
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This one is pretty tricky, so write $n-k$ as a sum and reverse the order of the sums.
 
Krizalid said:
This one is pretty tricky, so write $n-k$ as a sum and reverse the order of the sums.

i couldn't imagine ,how to solve this
 
Give it a try! It's a nice problem!
 
Krizalid said:
For any integrable function on $[0,1]$ prove that $\displaystyle \mathop {\lim }\limits_{n \to \infty } \frac{1}{n}\sum\limits_{k = 0}^{n - 1} {(n - k)\int_{\frac{k}{n}}^{\frac{{k + 1}}{n}} {f(x)\,dx} } = \int_0^1 {(1 - x)f(x)\,dx} .$
[sp]Let $$F(x) = \int_0^xf(t)\,dt.$$ Then $$\frac{1}{n}\sum_{k = 0}^{n - 1} (n - k)\int_{k/n}^{(k+1)/n}\!\!\! f(x)\,dx = \frac1n \sum_{k = 0}^{n - 1} (n-k)\bigl(F(\tfrac{k+1}n\bigr) - F\bigl(\tfrac kn\bigr)\bigr) = \frac1n \sum_{k = 0}^{n - 1} (n-k)F(\tfrac{k+1}n\bigr) - \frac1n \sum_{k = 0}^{n - 1}(n-k) F\bigl(\tfrac kn\bigr).$$ The first of those two sums is $$\sum_{j = 0}^{n - 1} (n-j)F(\tfrac{j+1}n\bigr) = \sum_{k=1}^{n} (n-k+1)F(\tfrac{k}n\bigr) = F(1) - F(0) + \sum_{k=0}^{n-1} (n-k+1)F(\tfrac{k}n\bigr)$$ (first writing $j$ instead of $k$, and then letting $k=j+1$). Therefore $$\begin{aligned}\frac{1}{n}\sum_{k = 0}^{n - 1} (n - k)\int_{k/n}^{(k+1)/n}\!\!\! f(x)\,dx &= \frac1n\Bigl(F(1) - F(0) + \sum_{k=0}^{n-1} (n-k+1)F(\tfrac{k}n\bigr)\Bigr) - \frac1n \sum_{k = 0}^{n - 1}(n-k) F\bigl(\tfrac kn\bigr) \\ &= \frac{F(1)}n + \frac1n\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}F(\tfrac{k}n\bigr).\end{aligned}$$ As $n\to\infty$, $F(1)/n\to0$ and the Riemann sum $$\frac1n\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}F(\tfrac{k}n\bigr)$$ converges to $$\int_0^1F(x)\,dx.$$ But (integrating by parts) $$\int_0^1 {(1 - x)f(x)\,dx} = \Bigl[(1-x)F(x)\Bigr]_0^1 + \int_0^1F(x)\,dx = \int_0^1F(x)\,dx.$$ Put those results together to see that $$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac1n \sum_{k=0}^n (n-k) \int_{k/n}^{(k+1)/n}\!\!\!f(x)\,dx = \int_0^1(1-x)f(x)\,dx.$$[/sp]
 

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