I Integral change of variables formula confusion

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The discussion revolves around the confusion regarding the change of variables in volume integrals, specifically in 1D. The integral transformation is correctly expressed as V(A) = ∫_A dz = ∫_{z^{-1}(A)} |z'(x)|dx, but the misconception arises when attempting to equate ∫_A dz with ∫_A |z'(x)|dx without adjusting the limits of integration. It is emphasized that when changing variables, all components related to the original variable must be replaced consistently, including the integration limits. Additionally, the transformation must be a diffeomorphism, meaning the function must be monotonous and differentiable across the entire range of integration. Understanding these principles clarifies the proper application of the change of variables formula.
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Greetings all.

I just got confused by the following.
Consider volume integral, for simplicity in 1D.
$$
V(A) = \int_{A} dz.
$$

If ##z## can be written as an invertible function of ##x##, i.e. ##z=f(x)##, we know the change of variables formula
$$
V(A)=\int_{A} dz= \int_{z^{-1}(A)} |z'(x)|dx.
$$

Intuitively, this is clear. What confused me now was the notion that the volume element transforms according to
$$
dz = |z'(x)|dx.
$$

If this equality holds, it should be allowed to write
$$
\int_{A} dz= \int_{A} |z'(x)|dx,
$$
which is obviously wrong. Why exactly is this not allowed?
 
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Are you wondering whether A or ##z^{-1}(A)## the domain of integration is ?
It would be A for ##\int dz ...## and ##z^{-1}(A)## for ##\int dx ...##.
 
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SchroedingersLion said:
Greetings all.

I just got confused by the following.
Consider volume integral, for simplicity in 1D.
$$
V(A) = \int_{A} dz.
$$

If ##z## can be written as an invertible function of ##x##, i.e. ##z=f(x)##, we know the change of variables formula
$$
V(A)=\int_{A} dz= \int_{z^{-1}(A)} |z'(x)|dx.
$$

Intuitively, this is clear. What confused me now was the notion that the volume element transforms according to
$$
dz = |z'(x)|dx.
$$

If this equality holds, it should be allowed to write
$$
\int_{A} dz= \int_{A} |z'(x)|dx,
$$
which is obviously wrong. Why exactly is this not allowed?
Because written out, the integral reads ##\displaystyle{\int_{z=a}^{z=b}}dz##, and you cannot substitute the variable in one place and ignore the other places. Here is the multivariate version:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integration_by_substitution#Substitution_for_multiple_variables
 
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fresh_42 said:
Because written out, the integral reads ##\displaystyle{\int_{z=a}^{z=b}}dz##, and you cannot substitute the variable in one place and ignore the other places. Here is the multivariate version:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integration_by_substitution#Substitution_for_multiple_variables
Thank you. Writing the integration domain explicitly in terms of the variable helps to clear my confusion. I need to replace everything ##z##-related with the corresponding ##x## expression, not just a part of the whole thing.
 
Of course you have to change the integration range to the new variables. You also must make sure that the transformation is a diffeomorphism over the entire range of integration. For a 1D integral over an interval the function must be monotonous and differentiable verywhere along the interval. Then
$$\int_a^b \mathrm{d} z f(z) = \int_{z^{-1}(a)}^{z^{-1}(b)} \mathrm{d} u \frac{\mathrm{d}}{\mathrm{d}u} z(u)f[z(u)].$$
 
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