Integral Involving the Dirac Delta Function

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The discussion revolves around the integral involving the Dirac delta function, exploring its mathematical properties and definitions within the context of functional analysis and distribution theory.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants discuss the limits of the integral and question whether the integral can be defined in the context of the Dirac delta function. Some express intuitive understandings while others seek mathematical explanations. There are inquiries about the appropriateness of certain test functions and the implications of defining the Dirac delta function within different function spaces.

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The conversation is active, with various interpretations being explored regarding the nature of the Dirac delta function and its integral. Some participants provide insights into the formalism of distributions, while others express uncertainty about the definitions and contexts in which the Dirac delta function is applied.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion among students regarding the application of the Dirac delta function in quantum mechanics, particularly concerning its relationship with eigenstates and the requirements of test functions in different mathematical frameworks.

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Homework Statement
What is the integral of the following equation?
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See below for the equation.
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What are your limits of integral?
 
Abhishek11235 said:
What are your limits of integral?
-∞ to +∞
 
gabriellelee said:
-∞ to +∞
So what do you think?
 
Abhishek11235 said:
So what do you think?
1?
 
gabriellelee said:
1?
Yes
 
Abhishek11235 said:
Yes
I know intuitively that the integral is 1, can you explain it to me mathematically?
 
gabriellelee said:
I know intuitively that the integral is 1, can you explain it to me mathematically?
By definition:
$$\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}\delta(x) f(x) dx = f(0)$$
 
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Actually it is not an integral it just a symbol. As well as ##\delta-##function is not a function in usual sense. These things are clarified in functional analysis
 
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Hm, is this an exercise in a physics course or a trick question in a mathematics course? In the latter case, I think, the answer is that the integral is undefined, because the exponential function is not a proper test function in the domain (of, e.g., Schwartz functions), the Dirac distribution is defined on.
 
  • #11
There is no sense to speak about integrals here. It is nothing more than symbol in this context.
A space of test functions is a conditional question. In different problems this space is introduced differently this depends of problem we consider . Loosely speaking, the smaller space of test functions the bigger space of generalized functions.

For example, consider a subspace of ##\mathcal D'(\mathbb{R})## that consists of generalized functions with compact support. Such generalized functions are naturally defined on ##C^\infty(\mathbb{R})##.
 
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I'm only a bit familiar with the formalism, but I don't think that ##\exp(\mathrm{i} x)## is a proper test function in any case. I'm a bit unsure, whether the Dirac ##\delta## function (which has compact support, namely only 1 point) is defined on the entire ##C^{\infty}(\mathbb{R})##. Isn't it usually either ##C_0^{\infty}(\mathbb{R})## or the "Schwartz space of quickly falling functions"?
 
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What is the problem to define the Dirac δ function on ##C^\infty(\mathbb{R})##?
Just put
$$(\delta, \varphi):=\varphi(0),\quad \varphi\in C^\infty(\mathbb{R})$$
This is a continuous linear functional with respect the standard topology in ##C^\infty(\mathbb{R})##
 
  • #14
I don't know. Maybe you can do that, but in quantum mechanics you often have confused students, because they think ##\exp(\mathrm{i} p x)## is a "eigenstate of the momentum operator", but it is not square integrable nor in the domain of the momentum operator as an essentially self-adjoint operator. Here you need the rigged-Hilbert space description!
 

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