Integral of $\sqrt{1-\sin{x}}$: Wrong Result?

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of the integral \(\int_0^{2\pi} \sqrt{1-\sin{x}}\, dx\). The original poster expresses confusion over obtaining a result of 0 for the definite integral despite the function being positive, while an external source suggests a value of \(4\sqrt{2}\).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the correctness of the indefinite integral computed by the original poster and question the validity of using certain functions in the integration process. There are suggestions to reconsider the approach due to the behavior of the cosine function over the interval.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding the integration process. Some participants have offered guidance on potential issues with the original computation, particularly concerning the handling of the cosine function and the use of the floor function.

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There is a noted concern regarding the continuity and differentiability of functions used in the integration, as well as the implications of the cosine function's sign over the specified interval.

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I need to calculate \int_0^{2\pi} \sqrt{1-\sin{x}}\, dx when I compute the indefinite integral I get 2\sqrt{\sin{x}+1}+C but when I evaluate it into the integration limits it turns out to be 0 which doesn't make sense since the original function is clearly positive...I already tested this result in wolfram alpha and my calculation of the definite integral is perfect but when I tested the definite integral wolfram computed its value to be 4\sqrt{2}. I can't find out what's wrong with my procedure. Please help!

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The indefinite integral you computed is not right I guess. Wolfram Alpha shows that but when I do it in Derive I get another thing which verifies the result 4sqrt2...

This is what I get (no idea what floor is, guess it's the function?)

$$\frac{{2\cos x}}{{\sqrt {1 - \sin x} }} - 4\sqrt 2 \cdot FLOOR\left( {\frac{1}{4} - \frac{x}{{2\pi }}} \right)$$
 
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Floor's not even a continuous function, much less differentiable that can't possibly be a primitive for \sqrt{1-\sin{x}}.
 
When you computed the antiderivative you replaced \sqrt{\cos^2 x} with \cos x. That's only correct if cos(x) is positive. cos(x) isn't positive on [0,2pi]. I'd suggest you split the integral up.
 
Thank you very much guys, your contributions were very valuable; particularly thank you Dick, with your observation I solved my trouble
 

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