Integral with legendre generating function

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The discussion revolves around evaluating an integral involving the Legendre generating function, specifically for the case where A > 1. The integral in question is presented with a specific form and requires the application of the Legendre polynomial series.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the use of the Legendre generating function and question the convergence of the series for A > 1. Some suggest interchanging integration and summation, while others express confusion about the implications of the series' convergence.

Discussion Status

Several participants have shared their attempts at manipulating the integral and applying the Legendre polynomials. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the conditions given in the problem, particularly regarding the convergence of the series and the orthogonality properties of the Legendre polynomials.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the Legendre generating function is typically convergent for |A| < 1, raising questions about its applicability when A > 1. There is also mention of the need for careful consideration of assumptions in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement



Use the Legendre generating function to show that for A > 1,

\int^{\pi}_{0} \frac{\left(Acos\theta + 1\right)sin\thetad\theta}{\left(A^{2}+2Acos\theta+1\right)^{1/2}} = \frac{4}{3A}

Homework Equations



The Legendre generating function

\phi\left(-cos\theta,A\right) = \left(A^{2}+2Acos\theta+1\right)^{-1/2}} = \sum^{\infty}_{n=0}P_{n}\left(-cos\theta\right)A^{n}

The Attempt at a Solution



Pretty much clueless, and the book makes no mention of anything else. I know that with these parameters the series should be convergent for |A| < 1, and that the interval now runs from [-pi, pi]. The only thing on the internet that I could find that deals with with integrals of Legendre functions is for orthogonality, which doesn't seem to apply here.
 
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buffordboy23 said:

Homework Statement



Use the Legendre generating function to show that for A > 1,

\int^{\pi}_{0} \frac{\left(Acos\theta + 1\right)sin\thetad\theta}{\left(A^{2}+2Acos\theta+1\right)^{1/2}} = \frac{4}{3A}
.

Using the trick the integral becomes

<br /> /int_0^\pi{\left(A\cos\theta+1\right)\sin\theta\sum_{n=0}^\infty{P_n(-\cos\theta)A^n}}<br />

I suggest you are courageous and interchange the integration and summation (or maybe you can argue that this is allowed in our case?) then you expand A\cos\theta +1 in terms of Legendre functions. You should then be able to use some orthoganality property.
 
I'm still stuck with this problem. Here is my work.

Let x = -cos\theta \rightarrow d\theta = dx/sin\theta. Substitution gives

\int^{1}_{-1} \frac{\left(1-Ax\right)dx}{\left(A^{2}-2Ax+1\right)^{1/2}} = \int^{1}_{-1} \left(\sum^{\infty}_{k=0}P_{k}\left(x\right)A^{k}\right)\left[1-Ax\right]dx = \int^{1}_{-1} \left(\sum^{\infty}_{k=0}P_{k}\left(x\right)A^{k}\right)\left[P_{0}\left(x\right)-P_{1}\left(x\right)A\right]dx = \int^{1}_{-1} \left(P_{0}\left(x\right)^{2}-P_{1}\left(x\right)^{2}A^{2}\right)dx

where the last equation exploited orthogonality. Yet,

\int^{1}_{-1} \left(P_{0}\left(x\right)^{2}-P_{1}\left(x\right)^{2}A^{2}\right)dx = 2 - \frac{2A^{2}}{3}

and is not the answer. What am I missing?

I know that the legendre generating function requires |A|<1, but this problem says A>1. This implies that the series is divergent, but does that necessarily matter in this context?
 
buffordboy23 said:
Use the Legendre generating function to show that for A > 1

The Legendre generating function

\phi\left(-cos\theta,A\right) = \left(A^{2}+2Acos\theta+1\right)^{-1/2}} = \sum^{\infty}_{n=0}P_{n}\left(-cos\theta\right)A^{n}

... I know that with these parameters the series should be convergent for |A| < 1

For A>1, this is not the generating function.

Hint: if A>1, then 1/A<1 :wink:
 
Here we go.

<br /> \int^{1}_{-1} \frac{\left(1-Ax\right)dx}{\left(A^{2}-2Ax+1\right)^{1/2}} = \int^{1}_{-1} \frac{\left(1/A-x\right)dx}{\left(1-2x/A+1/A^{2}\right)^{1/2}} =\int^{1}_{-1} \left(\sum^{\infty}_{k=0}P_{k}\left(x\right)A^{-k}\right)\left[1/A-x\right]dx = \int^{1}_{-1} \left(\sum^{\infty}_{k=0}P_{k}\left(x\right)A^{-k}\right)\left[P_{0}\left(x\right)/A-P_{1}\left(x\right)\right]dx

= \int^{1}_{-1} \left(\frac{P_{0}\left(x\right)^{2}}{A}-\frac{P_{1}\left(x\right)^{2}}{A}\right)dx =<br /> \frac{1}{A}\int^{1}_{-1} \left(1-x^{2}\right)dx =<br /> \frac{4}{3A}<br />

Thanks.
 
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