MHB Integral- Without using integration technnique

Click For Summary
The discussion centers on solving the integral of tan(t)sec^3(t) without traditional integration techniques such as substitution or integration by parts. Participants express skepticism about the feasibility of solving this integral without any integration methods, noting that it is not elementary. A hint is provided suggesting the use of u = sec(t) for simplification. However, it is emphasized that without employing some form of integration technique, finding a solution may not be possible. Ultimately, the consensus is that the integral requires at least some level of integration approach to solve effectively.
Chipset3600
Messages
79
Reaction score
0
Hello MHB, how can i solve this without use integration technniques...

\int tan(t)sec^3(t)dt
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Re: Integral- Without use integration technnique

Chipset3600 said:
Hello MHB, how can i solve this without use integration technniques...

\int tan(t)sec^3(t)dt

How do you mean "without using integration techniques"? Surely you need integration techniques to solve an integral? Also what have you tried?

Hint: Let $u = \sec(t) = \frac{1}{\cos(t)}$
 
Re: Integral- Without use integration technnique

SuperSonic4 said:
How do you mean "without using integration techniques"? Surely you need integration techniques to solve an integral? Also what have you tried?

Hint: Let $u = \sec(t) = \frac{1}{\cos(t)}$

I mean without: substitution, integration by parts...
 
Re: Integral- Without use integration technnique

I'm not sure that is possible, this is not an elementary integral (in the sense that it is the derivative of an elementary function, such as $\cos x$, $\sin x$, $\tan x$ and so on).
 
Re: Integral- Without use integration technnique

Hello, Chipset3600!

How can i solve this without use integration technniques?

. . \int \tan\theta \sec^3\!\theta\,d\theta
Well, maybe you can see all this?If we have: .f(x) \:=\:\tfrac{1}{3}\sec^3\!\theta + C

Then: .f'(x) \:=\:\tfrac{1}{3}\cdot 3\sec^2\!\theta\cdot\sec\theta\tan\theta + 0 \;=\;\tan\theta\sec^3\!\theta
 
Re: Integral- Without use integration technnique

soroban said:
Hello, Chipset3600!


Well, maybe you can see all this?If we have: .f(x) \:=\:\tfrac{1}{3}\sec^3\!\theta + C

Then: .f'(x) \:=\:\tfrac{1}{3}\cdot 3\sec^2\!\theta\cdot\sec\theta\tan\theta + 0 \;=\;\tan\theta\sec^3\!\theta

\int tan(t).sec^3(t)dt = \int sec^2(t).sec(t).tan(t)dtUsing the power rule now:\frac{sec^3(t)}{3}+C
 
Re: Integral- Without use integration technnique

You don't have a polynomial to apply the power rule, at least not until you use substitution.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
14
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K