Integrate cos(lnx)dx - LIPTE Rule Help

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function cos(ln(x)) with respect to x, utilizing the LIPTE (Logarithmic, Inverse, Polynomial, Trigonometric, Exponential) rule for integration by parts. Participants express confusion regarding the application of this rule and the nature of the functions involved.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of differentiable functions for integration by parts and question the differentiability of cos(dx). They explore substitutions, particularly letting t = ln(x), and consider the implications of this substitution on the integral. There is also discussion about the form of the resulting integral and the potential methods for solving it, including the use of complex exponentials.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing various approaches and clarifications. Some guidance has been offered regarding the substitution and the resulting integral form. There is recognition of the complexity of the composite function and the need for careful application of integration techniques.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of integrating a composite function involving trigonometric and logarithmic elements, which does not have a straightforward integral. The discussion reflects on the necessity of substitutions and the potential for multiple methods to arrive at a solution.

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Homework Statement


let u=lnx
du=1/x*dx
dv=cosdx
v=-sin

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Now I am confused as I am getting nowhere with this substiution, i learned the LIPTE rule but its quite confusing, i have a function within a function

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for integration by parts to work, i would need two differentiable functions, but the cosdx is not differentiable would it need to be cosxdx for it to be differentiated?
 
Is the integral:

<br /> \int{\cos{(\ln{(x)})} \, dx}<br />

If it is, make the substitution:

<br /> t = \ln{(x)} \Rightarrow x = e^{t}<br />

and substitute everywhere. The integral that you will get can be integrated by using integration by parts twice, or, if you know complex numbers, by representing the trigonometric function through the complex exponential.
 
it is just cos(lnx)dx
 
then proceed as I told you.
 
ok I am getting an integral of the form : coste^tdt. is this correct?
 
yes. proceed by integration by parts or using complex exponentials.
 
ok thank you for the help, quick question why do we have to let t=lnx?
 
We have a composite function \cos{(\ln{x})} of two elementary functions (trigonometric and logarithmic). As a combination, it does not have an immediate table integral. But, the method of substitution, which is nothing but inverting the chain rule for derivatives of composite functions, works exactly for such compound functions.
 
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thank you, lastly i end up with 1/2(e^tcost-e^tsint), do i sub back , so that x=e^t and t=lnx
which leaves me with : 1/2x(cos(lnx)-sin(lnx)+c?
 
  • #11
I think the sign in front of the sine should be + and the result should be:

<br /> \frac{1}{2} x \left[\cos{\left(\ln{(x)}\right)} + \sin{\left(\ln{(x)}\right)}\right]+ C<br />
 
  • #12
yes, made a slight mistake thank you very much for the help, i tried doing it another way by letting u=cos(lnx) and dv=dx and i arrived at the same answer
 
  • #13
yes, the x's will cancel.
 

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