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The discussion centers around the concept of integration over various domains, including lines, surfaces, and volumes. Participants explore the meaning of integrating over a domain and seek clarification on terminology related to integration, such as "domain," "interval," and "region."

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions what exactly is integrated over when performing integration, suggesting that understanding the domain could aid in visualizing the process.
  • Another participant explains that integration occurs over an interval or region, providing examples of one-dimensional and two-dimensional integrals.
  • A subsequent participant confirms that integration is indeed over the domain of the region, noting that the result represents the volume between the domain and the surface or line.
  • Concerns are raised about the orientation of volume, with an example given where the integral results in zero due to cancellation of areas above and below the axis.
  • Another participant expresses a preference for using "interval" or "region" instead of "domain," indicating a distinction between the terms.
  • There is a mention of the term "range," which one participant recalls but questions its applicability in the context of integration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the terminology used to describe the areas of integration, with some preferring "domain" while others suggest alternatives. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most appropriate terms and their implications.

Contextual Notes

There are varying interpretations of the terms "domain," "interval," and "region," which may affect the clarity of the discussion. Additionally, the concept of oriented volume and its implications for integration results is not fully explored.

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I have a question about integration and I hope I can word it correctly. When we integrate over something (i.e. a line, a surface, or volume), what exactly do I integrate over? Is it the domain of that "thing"? I feel like it's something I've been told but I just can't remember. If this is the case visualizing integration would be significantly easier for me :oldsmile:. It would all come down to knowing the domain.
 
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Chemmjr18 said:
I have a question about integration and I hope I can word it correctly. When we integrate over something (i.e. a line, a surface, or volume), what exactly do I integrate over? Is it the domain of that "thing"? I feel like it's something I've been told but I just can't remember. If this is the case visualizing integration would be significantly easier for me :oldsmile:. It would all come down to knowing the domain.
The "over" part is an interval or a two-dimensional region or three-dimensional region, and so on.

For this integral -- ##\int_0^2 f(x)dx## -- the integration takes place over the interval [0, 2].
For this integral -- ##\int_0^2 \int_0^5 f(x, y)~dy~dx## -- integration takes place over the rectangular region [0, 2] X [0, 5] in the plane.
 
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Mark44 said:
For this integral -- ##\int_0^2 f(x)dx## -- the integration takes place over the interval [0, 2].
For this integral -- ##\int_0^2 \int_0^5 f(x, y)~dy~dx## -- integration takes place over the rectangular region [0, 2] X [0, 5] in the plane.
In each of these cases, we're just integrating over the domain of the region?
 
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In each of these cases, we're just integrating over the domain of the region?
Yes, and the result is the volume between this domain and the surface or line. But one has to keep an eye on zeroes, as it is an oriented volume which can get negative. For example ##\int_{-\pi}^\pi \cos(x)\,dx = 0## although there is definitely an area under this curve, but the one below the ##[-\pi,\pi]## and the one above cancel each other out.
 
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Got it. Thank for your help!
 
Chemmjr18 said:
In each of these cases, we're just integrating over the domain of the region?
I prefer to save the word "domain" for the set of possible values for the function. Instead of "domain" I say "interval" or "region."
 
Mark44 said:
I prefer to save the word "domain" for the set of possible values for the function. Instead of "domain" I say "interval" or "region."
The term I seem to remember learning a long time ago is "range", but that may apply to the function as a whole, not the restricted portion that one integrates.
 

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