Integrate Sine and Square root Composite Function

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the integration of the function $$\int \frac{\sin^3(\sqrt{x})}{\sqrt{x}}dx$$. Participants explore various methods of integration, including substitutions and integration by parts, while expressing confusion and seeking clarification on the approaches taken.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially rewrites the integral using the identity $$\sin^2(x) = 1 - \cos^2(x)$$ and attempts to substitute variables, leading to a complex expression.
  • Another participant suggests a substitution of $$\sqrt{x} = u$$ to simplify the integral, indicating that this approach could make the integration easier.
  • Further clarification is sought regarding the substitution process, with questions about the possibility of substituting multiple times.
  • A later reply confirms that the substitution $$u = \sqrt{x}$$ simplifies the integral to $$2\int \sin^3(u)\,du$$, which is presented as a more manageable form for integration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the substitution methods, with some confusion evident. While one substitution method is proposed as beneficial, there is no consensus on the best approach to take for the integration.

Contextual Notes

Participants demonstrate uncertainty about the implications of their substitutions and the integration process, with some mathematical steps remaining unresolved or unclear.

Who May Find This Useful

Students or individuals seeking assistance with integration techniques, particularly involving trigonometric functions and substitutions, may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello MHB,
I got stuck on integrate this function

$$\int \frac{\sin^3(\sqrt{x})}{\sqrt{x}}dx$$
my first thinking was rewrite it as $$\int \frac{\sin^2(\sqrt{x})\sin(\sqrt{x})}{\sqrt{x}}dx$$
then use the identity $$\cos^2(x)+\sin^2(x)=1 \ \therefore \sin^2x=1- \cos^2(x)$$
$$\int \frac{(1-\cos^2(\sqrt{x}))\sin(\sqrt{x})}{\sqrt{x}}dx$$
subsitute $$u= \cos(x) \therefore du=- \sin(x) dx$$
then we get
$$- \int \frac{1-u^2}{ \cos^{-1}(u)}du$$
but that does not seem smart so my last ide is integrate by part, but I struggle on that part..

$$u= \sqrt{x}^{-1} \therefore du=\sqrt{x}^{-2}$$ and $$dv=\sin^3(\sqrt{x}) \therefore v=?$$

Regards,
$$|\pi\rangle$$
 
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Re: Integrate 2

Use the substitution $\sqrt{x}=u$
 
Re: Integrate 2

ZaidAlyafey said:
Use the substitution $\sqrt{x}=u$
Hello Zaid,
I don't see what is the point with that=S? can I substitute twice or ? I am kinda clueless:confused:

Regards,
$$|\pi\rangle$$
 
Re: Integrate 2

Petrus said:
Hello Zaid,
I don't see what is the point with that=S? can I substitute twice or ? I am kinda clueless:confused:

Regards,
$$|\pi\rangle$$

One thing to realize that $$(\sqrt{x})'=\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}$$

So before we proceed , we make $$u=\sqrt{x}$$ substitution , which makes things easier since we are left with

$$2\int \sin^3 (u)\,du $$ which you can integrate , right ?

I have got to get some sleep now , if you are still stuck someone is always around :cool:.
 
Re: Integrate 2

ZaidAlyafey said:
One thing to realize that $$(\sqrt{x})'=\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}$$

So before we proceed , we make $$u=\sqrt{x}$$ substitution , which makes things easier since we are left with

$$2\int \sin^3 (u)\,du $$ which you can integrate , right ?

I have got to get some sleep now , if you are still stuck someone is always around :cool:.
Hello Zaid,
Now it make a lot sense!:) Thanks for taking your time and sleep well! I am also supposed to sleep but will do it soom =D

Regards,
$$|\pi\rangle$$
 

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