Integrating 1/[1+sq.root(tanx)]

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function ∫1/(1+√tanx) dx, which falls under the subject area of calculus, specifically integration techniques involving trigonometric functions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss substitution methods, particularly substituting √tanx with z, and the complications that arise from this approach. There are attempts to manipulate the integral into a more manageable form, including discussions on using partial fractions and factoring techniques.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the validity of their approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of partial fractions and factoring, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or a clear resolution.

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There are constraints noted regarding the use of complex numbers in the integration process, with participants expressing concerns about the complexity of the resulting expressions. The discussion includes various interpretations of how to approach the problem, particularly in relation to the integration of quartic expressions.

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How to integrate ∫1/(1+√tanx) dx?

2. The attempt at a solution

Tried to substitute √tanx with z, but ultimately getting messed up with large expression
 
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hi justwild! :smile:
justwild said:
Tried to substitute √tanx with z, but ultimately getting messed up with large expression

if it's the correct large expression, what's the difficulty? :wink:

show us what you got :smile:
 
we have,
∫1/[1+√tanx] dx ----------1

let tanx=z^{2}

hence by applying derivative on both sides,

sec^{2}x dx = 2zdz
\Rightarrow 1+tan^{2}x dx=2zdz
\Rightarrow 1+z^{4} dx=2zdz
therefore, dx = [2z/(1+z^{4})]dz

Substituting the above value in expression 1 we have,
∫2z/[{1+z^{4}}{1+z}] dz
This is what I got and I could not go on from here
 
hi justwild! :wink:

yes, that looks right :smile:

now use partial fractions

(factoring (1 + z4) = (1 + iz2)(1 - iz2) = (1 + eiπ/4)timesetc :wink:)
 
That is OK but I can't use complex numbers here...
 
justwild said:
That is OK but I can't use complex numbers here...
z4 + 1 can be factored into two quadratics.

z^4+1=(z^2+\sqrt{2}\,x+1)(z^2-\sqrt{2}\,x+1)

Then try partial fractions.

The overall result of the integration promises to be pretty complicated.
 
justwild said:
That is OK but I can't use complex numbers here...

The answer will not be complex; the complex numbers come in conjugate pairs, and when the final answer is obtained the imaginary parts go away. This often happens: we end up with some real solution by going out into the complex plane, doing some manipulations there, and finally arriving back on the real line at the end.

RGV
 
SammyS said:
z^4+1=(z^2+\sqrt{2}\,x+1)(z^2-\sqrt{2}\,x+1)

a good hint is to complete the square

z4 + 1 = (z4 + 2z2 + 1) - 2z2 :wink:

works for any symmetric quartic:

z4 + 2az3 + bz2 + 2az + 1

= (z2 + az + 1)2 - (a2 + 2 - b)z2

= (z2 + (a + √(a2 + 2 - b)z + 1)(z2 + (a - √(a2 + 2 - b)z + 1)​
 

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