Integration of y=(1+0.25x^2)^0.5

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The discussion revolves around finding the length of the curve defined by the equation y=(1/4)x^2. Participants are exploring the integration process required to determine this length.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various substitution methods, including the use of trigonometric identities and integration by parts. There is a focus on the implications of the chosen substitution and the need for bounds in the context of the problem.

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The conversation includes attempts to clarify the correct substitution and the implications of the integration process. Some participants have pointed out potential errors in earlier attempts and emphasized the importance of defining the interval for the curve length calculation.

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There is a mention of the interval (0≤x≤2) as a constraint for the problem, which is crucial for determining the length of the curve.

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Homework Statement


I am told to find out the length of he curve y=¼x^2

Homework Equations


The length of the curve should be

∫√(1+¼x^2)dx

The Attempt at a Solution


I substituted tanx and got ∫2/cos^3x dx

So how could I continue and work out the solution? Should I use integration by part, or I had already done wrong?
 
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gaywaiha said:

Homework Statement


I am told to find out the length of he curve y=¼x^2

Homework Equations


The length of the curve should be

∫√(1+¼x^2)dx

The Attempt at a Solution


I substituted tanx and got ∫2/cos^3x dx

So how could I continue and work out the solution? Should I use integration by part, or I had already done wrong?
Hello gaywaiha. Welcome to PF !

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gaywaiha said:
I substituted tanx and got ∫2/cos^3x dx

How ? Instead substitute x = 2*tan(θ) . You will however have to use by-parts later .
 
You've already done a couple of things wrong.

1. What does the word Precalculus mean to you? I'm moving this to the Calculus and Beyond forum

2. Your substitution should be x = 2 tan θ

3. Show us your work

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
You've already done a couple of things wrong.

1. What does the word Precalculus mean to you? I'm moving this to the Calculus and Beyond forum

2. Your substitution should be x = 2 tan θ

3. Show us your work

Chet

As stated, the problem has an easy solution that I am willing to repeat here: the length of the curve ##y = (1/4)x^2## is infinite. No detailed calculations needed!
 
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Guys thank you very much. I am sorry that I substituted 2tanx and forgot to type the 2. But now I finally found the answer by separate 1/cos^3x into (1/cosx)(tanx)' and work it out using integration by part.

Thank you
 
However, you still haven't addressed Chestermiller's point- until you have put some bounds on it, the length is infinite!
 
Sorry about that. The interval is (0≤x≤2).
 

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