Integrating 1/(1+tan(x)^e) from 0 to pi/2: Challenges and Possible Approaches

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function 1/(1 + tan(x)^e) from 0 to π/2. Participants are exploring the challenges associated with finding an exact solution, as they suspect that an antiderivative may not exist.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various methods for tackling the integral, including Taylor series and substitutions. There are questions about the form of the denominator and the nature of the constant e. Some participants express curiosity about the consistency of the integral's value across different integer and non-integer values of e.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing insights and attempting different approaches. Some have suggested splitting the integral and using substitutions, while others are exploring numerical integration methods. There is a recognition of the integral's behavior across different values of e, but no consensus has been reached on the underlying reasons.

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Participants mention constraints such as the requirement for an exact answer without approximations and the potential complexity of finding an antiderivative. There is also a reference to the relationship between sine and cosine in the context of the tangent function.

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Integrate(1/(1 + [ tan x ] ^e)) from 0 to pi/2

I don't think there's an anti derivative so some other method has to be used to get an exact answer (no approximation). I've tried using Taylor series and Eulers formula. Any help would be great..maybe if you could just point me in the right direction even...
 
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Is that denominator ...
1 + [ tan x^e ]
or
1 + [ tan x ] ^e ?
 
its 1 + [ tan x ] ^e
 
Ok I think I got it..I think its pi/4.
 
Split the integral up in two parts, from 0 to pi/4 and pi/4 to pi/2. Then use the substitution u = pi/2-x on the second part. Then you will see that it is much easier to compute. How did you arrive upon pi/4? I'm curious.
 
i just used rectangle approximation and it seemed that it would equal pi/4 (i knew that it had to be an exact answer because i was told so)..your way is probably going to work nicely as well..i will try it..
 
Ok I tried that and I don't really see where its going. The integral doesn't seem to be computable by finding an anti derivative
 
iceblits said:
Integrate(1/(1 + [ tan x ] ^e)) from 0 to pi/2

I don't think there's an anti derivative so some other method has to be used to get an exact answer (no approximation). I've tried using Taylor series and Eulers formula. Any help would be great..maybe if you could just point me in the right direction even...

What is e? Is it the standard base of natural logarithms, or just some other (positive?) number?
Using Maple I have found that for e = integer 1,...,10, the integral has the same value for all such e, and (by numerical integration), has the same value also for non-integer e. However, at present I don't understand why this happens. You could use Wolfram Alpha to verify this for yourself.

RGV
 
woah..interesting...I will check that out and yes its e as in the 2.71828183...
 
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wowwwww..thats so cool.. i noticed that before but i didnt think it was the exact same value (i thought it might be off by a few decimal points or something because the region was so small, but using mathematica i can confirm what u said)
 
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I think its because tangent is a relationship between the sin and the cos so the ratio levels out
 
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edit: nevermind i don't know why it is yet..but I intend to find out :)
 
  • #13
ok the reason y it does that is because 1/(1+tan(x)^n) is has integral zero over the line y=-pi/2(x)+1
 

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