Integrating a curious function

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function x/log(x). The original poster is seeking confirmation on whether this function can be integrated, having attempted integration by parts without success. A participant clarifies that the integral can be expressed in terms of the non-elementary exponential integral function Ei, which involves a principal value integral due to a pole in the integrand. There is a debate on the effectiveness of integration by parts, with some suggesting it is not the best approach. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexity of integrating this function and the challenges faced by those with varying levels of mathematical understanding.
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Homework Statement



I'm having some trouble trying to integrate the following function

Homework Equations



\int([x/(logx)]dx)

The Attempt at a Solution



I have tried integration by parts but I get stuck with harder integrals. What I'd like to know is that this function could be integrated or not. :) I've tried using Wolfram Alpha for this particular case but my math level is way below the explanations given there.
 
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zip37 said:

Homework Statement



I'm having some trouble trying to integrate the following function

Homework Equations



\int([x/(logx)]dx)

The Attempt at a Solution



I have tried integration by parts but I get stuck with harder integrals. What I'd like to know is that this function could be integrated or not. :) I've tried using Wolfram Alpha for this particular case but my math level is way below the explanations given there.

Do you mean that the integrand is f(x) = x/ \log(x) or do you mean f(x) = [x/ \log(x)], where [\cdots] is the "greatest-integer function"? If you mean the former, Maple expresses the result in terms of the non-elementary function Ei (the exponential integral): \mbox{Ei}(y) = P\int_{-\infty}^y \frac{e^t}{t} dt,
with P denoting the principal value integral.

RGV
 
Yes, I meant the former, the integrand is x/logx.

Thank you for the information! I'm looking up a bit in other websites what this Ei function is in more detail.
 
Are you integrating that through the whole real line? In that case you really do have a principal value integral because you are moving through a pole in the integrand.
 
Integration by parts is the way I would go.

Try both functions for u. Ya got a 50% chance that your 1st choice is the correct one :)
 
kmacinto said:
Integration by parts is the way I would go.

Try both functions for u. Ya got a 50% chance that your 1st choice is the correct one :)

Integration by parts in NOT the way to go.

Your second comment makes no sense: the OP is 100% sure of what he/she means. Anyway, the second form f(x)= [x/log(x)] (where [] = greatest-integer function) will not have an analytically expressible integral---think about why not.

RGV
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

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