Integrating a Difficult Integral: Electric Field of a Spherical Surface

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The discussion revolves around finding the electric field at a distance z from the center of a spherical surface with a uniform surface charge density, ##\sigma##. The original poster encounters a challenging integral related to this problem.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts a substitution to simplify the integral but expresses uncertainty about the appropriateness of using partial fractions due to the square root in the denominator. Participants question the choice of variable for integration and suggest methods for eliminating the square root.

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The discussion has progressed with participants providing guidance on how to manipulate the integral. There is an exploration of different substitution strategies, and while the original poster seems to have made progress, the conversation indicates that multiple approaches are being considered without a definitive consensus on the best method.

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Participants note the complexity of integrating with respect to different variables and the implications of the square root in the denominator, which may affect the use of certain techniques like partial fractions.

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Homework Statement


While trying to find the electric field at a distance z from the center of a spherical surface that carries a uniform surface charge ##\sigma## I got stuck with the following integral (which I'm quite sure is correct):
[tex]\int_0^\pi \frac{(z-Rcos\theta)sin\theta d\theta}{(R^{2}+z^{2}-2Rzcos\theta)^{3/2}}[/tex]

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The only idea I had is to let ##u=cos\theta ; du=-sin\theta d\theta##,then the integral becomes:
[tex]\int_0^\pi \frac{(Ru-z)du}{(R^{2}+z^{2}-2Rzu)^{3/2}}[/tex]
and now I'm stuck. This looks very similar to a partial fractions problem except there is a square root in the denominator and if I understand correctly I'm not allowed to use partial fractions in this case.

Any help will be appreciated!
 
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You want to integrate with respect to which variable?
 
preferably ##\theta## but if my substitution of ##u## is of any good than ##u## will do also.
 
That looks sort-of familiar ... if you're sure, I'll start from there.

Remember that z does not depend on u in your last integral, so it has form $$\int \frac{ax-b}{(c-dx)^{3/2}}\;\text dx$$
... your main problem is to get rid of the square-root in the denominator.
How would you normally do that?
 
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substitute [tex]x=\frac{c}{d}sinu[/tex]
EDIT: no, that's not correct, no 2nd power... perhaps multiply and divide by the square root. Am I allowed to use partial fractions with a square root in the numerator?
 
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You do want to get rid of the root before attempting partial fractions.
How about ##u^2=c-dx## or ##dx=c\sin^2\phi##

Aside: I probably should not have used "d" as a constant :(
 
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Alright, substituting ##v^2=c-gx## (replacing ##d## with ##g##) I am finally able to integrate and simplify to get the desired result:
[tex]\int\frac{\frac{ac-av^{2}}{g}-b}{v^{3}}<br /> \frac{-2v}{g}<br /> dv = \int\frac{2a}{g^{2}}dv<br /> - \int\frac{2ac}{g^{2}v^{2}}dv<br /> + \int\frac{2b}{gv^{2}}dv<br /> =\frac{2av}{g^{2}}<br /> + \frac{2ac}{g^{2}v}<br /> - \frac{2b}{gv}<br /> = \frac{1}{z^{2}}\left(\frac{R+z}{|R+z|}-\frac{R-z}{|R-z|}\right)[/tex]

Thank you very much Simon!
 

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