Integrating a strange square root function

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The discussion focuses on calculating the area under the curve for the functions f(x) = √x*√(−32 − x) and g(x) = √(−x² − 32x). Participants agree that both functions are equivalent and suggest using trigonometric identities to simplify the integration process. Key steps include completing the square for the expression -x² - 32x and making the substitution v = u + 16 to transform the integral into a more manageable form. Ultimately, the substitution v = 16 sec(θ) is recommended to eliminate the square root in the integral.

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Homework Statement



Calculate the area under the curve for the following:
f(x) = √x*√(−32 − x)
and
g(x) = √(−x2 − 32x)



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I've been trying to do partial integration since the functions f(x)=g(x)area are mirrored, so they are equal area. I am thinking that since they have the same area, I only need to calculate one of the problems, but I just don't know how to approach it. I've tried using substitution, partial integration etc. I can't see any obvious trig identities. I'm just stuck. Thanks so much in advance!
 
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You will eventually have to use trig identities. But it isn't immediately obvious which one. One hint is that you should complete the square of -x^2-32x. Then your integral will be in a more suitable form...
 
I'm not sure what you mean by "f(x) and g(x)" since those two functions are exactly the same. Of course, the function is only defined for x between -32 and 0 so the area under the curve will be
\int_{-32}^0 \sqrt{-32x- x^2}dx

If you make the change of variable u= -x that gives
\int_0^{32}\sqrt{u^2+ 32u}dx
which isn't really any simpler but may look nicer.

As micromass suggests, complete the square: u^2+ 32u= u^2+ 32u+ 256- 256= (u+ 16)^2- 256 and the substitution v= u+ 16 further reduces the integral to
\int_{16}^{48}\sqrt{v^2- 256}dv[/itex]<br /> <br /> Remembering that sin^2+ cos^2= 1, tan^2+ 1= sec^2 and sec^2- 1= tan^2. That is, the substitution v= 16 sec(\theta) will get rid of the square root:<br /> \sqrt{v^2- 256}= \sqrt{256sec^(\theta)- 256}= 16\sqrt{sec^2(\theta)- 1}= 16tan(\theta).
 

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