Integrating Arcsine: Solving for the Area Between Two Intervals

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The discussion revolves around the integral of the function involving arcsine and its relationship to the area between two intervals, specifically from 0 to 1/√2. Participants are exploring the integration of the function \(\frac{\arcsin(x)}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}\) and the implications of variable substitution in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the substitution \(u = \arcsin(x)\) and the resulting differential \(du = \frac{dx}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}\). There are questions about how to handle the limits of integration after substitution and whether the intervals remain consistent. Some participants express uncertainty about the transformation of the integral and the final evaluation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants attempting to clarify the steps involved in the integration process. Some have provided partial setups for the substitution, while others are questioning the correctness of their results compared to expected answers. There is no explicit consensus on the final approach or outcome yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note discrepancies between their calculated results and the expected answer of 0.308, leading to further exploration of the integral's transformation and potential alternative forms. There is mention of external resources that present different integrals related to the problem.

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Homework Statement


\int^{1/\sqrt{2}}_{0} \stackrel{arcsinx}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}

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The 0 is supposed to be on the bottom of the intergal, but I could not format it to go there.

The Attempt at a Solution


My attempt was to set u= arcsinx, then DU would equal the bottom, so it would be \stackrel{u}{du}...but from there I get stuck. I know the answer is supposed to be .308...Help anyone?
 
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\int_0^{1\over\sqrt{2}}\frac{\arcsin(x)}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}dx

\int_0^{1\over\sqrt{2}}\frac{\arcsin(x)}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}

If you set u=arcsinx

du = \frac{dx}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}

\int u du = \int {arcsinx\over \sqrt{1-x^2}} dx
 


Ok, that makes sense. Then from there do you just sub in the two intervals?
 


Yeah you need to make sure the intervals are consistent i.e. u=arcsinx, sinu=0 or 1/sqrt(2) quite simple, and that way you won't need to change all back to x.
 


If possible, could you set up the substitution for me so I can see how it looks, and then I can work from that?
 


\int_0^{1\over\sqrt{2}}\frac{\arcsin(x)}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}dx

using the substition:

u = \arcsin(x)

{du\over dx} = {1\over \sqrt{1-x^2}} \Rightarrow du = {dx\over \sqrt{1-x^2}}

\int u du = \int \arcsinx {dx\over \sqrt{1-x^2}}


then make sure the limits are changed:


x_0 = 0, x_1 = {1\over\sqrt{2}}

\arcsin(0) = u_0 = 0

\arcsin({1\over\sqrt{2}}) = u_1 = {\pi\over 4}

\int_0^{1\over \sqrt{2}} {\arcsin(x)\over \sqrt{1-x^2}} dx = \int_0^{\pi\over 4} u du
 


ok so


\int^{\Pi/4}_{0} dx/\sqrt{1-x^2}


Then from there I substitute pie/4 in for x?
 


or would it be something like this..arcsin (Pie/4) - arcsin (0)??
 


No. The whole integral has been transformed.

\int_{0}^{\pi\over 4} u du = \int_{0}^{1\over\sqrt{2}} \frac{\arcsin (x)}{\sqrt{1-x^2}} dx

Basically because you swapped x for sin(u) (essentially) if x is 1\over\sqrt{2} then u has to be \pi\over 4 doesn't it? So everything is consistent? 0 stays the same because sin(0)=0.
 
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True, so we have that set up. Now where do we go from there?
 
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integrate u from 0 to pi/4 and that's it.
 
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so I would get .903??

The answer in the back of the book for this problem says .308.
Did I do something wrong?
 
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on calcchat.com, they have something like this for their new integral.

\int^{\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}}_{0} \frac{1}{2} arcsin2x


then from there they get \frac{\Pi^2}{32}


which approximates to 0.308, but how on Earth did they get that new integral? Does what you see here make any sense?
 

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