Integrating exponetial of z over the conjugate of z

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The discussion revolves around a complex variable integration problem involving the integral I = ∮ e^{z/overline{z}} dz, which is to be evaluated over a circle of radius r. Participants are exploring the implications of expressing the integrand in exponential form and considering the properties of holomorphic functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss transforming the integrand into exponential form and express concerns about the complexity of the resulting equations. Some suggest using the Residue Theorem or Cauchy's Theorem as potential approaches. Others propose rewriting the integral in terms of the modulus of z and question the validity of their reasoning regarding the integral's value.

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There is an active exchange of ideas, with participants providing insights and alternative perspectives on the problem. Some have offered guidance on the properties of holomorphic functions and the implications of the deformation theorem, while others are exploring different methods of evaluation without reaching a consensus.

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Participants note that the integral is to be evaluated over a circle, and there are discussions about the implications of the radius, particularly when r=1. The conversation also touches on the challenges of numerical verification and the behavior of the integrand at certain points.

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Im doing some complex variable "counter integration" problems and this one came up.

I = \oint e ^{\frac{z}{\overline{z}}}dz


the integral must be done over a circle with radio r


My first attempt was to do it in the exponetial form, so we have this:

\frac{z}{\overline{z}} = e^{2i\theta}

but when i do so, i get an e to the power e to the power something and i start getting some long equation so i figure out, there must be an easier way to solve the problem. Hope someone can give me a hand. =D
PS: sorry for my english, it´s my second language!
 
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marqeeete said:
Im doing some complex variable "counter integration" problems and this one came up.

I = \oint e ^{\frac{z}{\overline{z}}}dz


the integral must be done over a circle with radio r


My first attempt was to do it in the exponetial form, so we have this:

\frac{z}{\overline{z}} = e^{2i\theta}

but when i do so, i get an e to the power e to the power something and i start getting some long equation so i figure out, there must be an easier way to solve the problem. Hope someone can give me a hand. =D
PS: sorry for my english, it´s my second language!

All I can suggest is that you struggle with trying to do the integral! The final answer is very simple, but I cheated and used a computer algebra package to do it.
 
marqeeete said:
Im doing some complex variable "counter integration" problems and this one came up.

I = \oint e ^{\frac{z}{\overline{z}}}dz the integral must be done over a circle with radio r My first attempt was to do it in the exponetial form, so we have this:

\frac{z}{\overline{z}} = e^{2i\theta}

but when i do so, i get an e to the power e to the power something and i start getting some long equation so i figure out, there must be an easier way to solve the problem. Hope someone can give me a hand. =D
PS: sorry for my english, it´s my second language!

Can you solve it with the Residue Theorem or Cauchy's Theorem? Well, how about this one:

\mathop\oint\limits_{|u|=1} e^{u^2} du

How about this one then:

\int_0^{2\pi} e^{e^{2it}} ri e^{it} dt

Then what happens if you just substitute z=re^{it} into yours?
 
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Thanks for the answers, they really got me thinking and I just came up with an idea; now i do not know if its valid or logical in all its statements, but maybe you can tell me if it is..

I can rewrite.
e^{z/\overline{z}}

as

e^{z^2/\left|z\right|^2}

then i get:

\oint_{|z|=r} e^{z^2/\left|z\right|^2}dz

which is equal to
\oint_{|z|=r} e^{z^2/r^2}dz

and when r=1 (in the unit circle) the integral is equal to zero(as it is an holomorfic/analytic function)

\oint_{|z|=1} e^{z^2}dz = 0

then, as it is also holomorfic/analytic between |z|=1 and |z|=r the result must be the same because of the deformation theorem (its a rubber sheet geometry) so:

\oint_{|z|=r} e^{z^2/\left|z\right|^2}dz=0

and finally:

\oint_{|z|=r} e^{z/\overline{z}}dz=0

does it sound reasonable to you??
 
marqeeete said:
Thanks for the answers, they really got me thinking and I just came up with an idea; now i do not know if its valid or logical in all its statements, but maybe you can tell me if it is..

I can rewrite.
e^{z/\overline{z}}

as

e^{z^2/\left|z\right|^2}

then i get:

\oint_{|z|=r} e^{z^2/\left|z\right|^2}dz

which is equal to
\oint_{|z|=r} e^{z^2/r^2}dz

and when r=1 (in the unit circle) the integral is equal to zero(as it is an holomorfic/analytic function)

\oint_{|z|=1} e^{z^2}dz = 0

then, as it is also holomorfic/analytic between |z|=1 and |z|=r the result must be the same because of the deformation theorem (its a rubber sheet geometry) so:

\oint_{|z|=r} e^{z^2/\left|z\right|^2}dz=0

and finally:

\oint_{|z|=r} e^{z/\overline{z}}dz=0

does it sound reasonable to you??

Outstanding. Better than my way. But you could have stopped at just:

\oint_{|z|=r} e^{z^2/r^2}dz=0, \quad r>0

since it's holomorphic. And also, not hard to numerically verify it in Mathematica in case you need to check something else that's not so obvious:

Code:
In[1]:=
NIntegrate[Exp[z/Conjugate[z]]*I*Exp[I*t] /. 
   z -> Exp[I*t], {t, 0, 2*Pi}]

During evaluation of In[1]:= NIntegrate::ncvb:NIntegrate failed to converge to prescribed accuracy after 9 recursive bisections in t near {t} = {1.1269*10^-7}. NIntegrate obtained -4.996*10^-16-1.27676*10^-15 I and 3.849598995114243`*^-12 for the integral and error estimates. >>

Out[1]=
-4.996003610813204*^-16 - 1.27675647831893*^-15*I

That's basically zero.
 

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