Integrating Fractions: Understanding How to Integrate 2+3sin^2x/5sin^2x

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around integrating the function \(\frac{2+3\sin^{2}x}{5\sin^{2}x}\), with participants exploring the steps involved in the integration process and identifying where misunderstandings may have occurred.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to simplify the integral and expresses confusion about their approach, particularly regarding the integration of \(\frac{1}{\sin^2 x}\).
  • Some participants question the transition from the integral of \(\frac{1}{\sin^2 x}\) to the expression \(-\frac{1}{\sin x \cos x}\).
  • Others suggest considering the relationship between \(\csc x\) and \(\sin x\) to clarify the integration steps.
  • There is a discussion about the integral of \(\csc^2(x)\) and its connection to \(-\cot(x)\), with participants reflecting on their previous misunderstandings.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and clarifications regarding the integration process. Some have identified specific mistakes in reasoning, particularly concerning the integral of \(\csc^2(x)\), while others are still grappling with the steps leading to the correct answer.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is an ongoing exploration of assumptions related to integration techniques and trigonometric identities.

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I'm having some problems integrating fractions. If you could help me understand it, that would be great.

Homework Statement


[tex]\int\frac{2+3sin^{2}x}{5sin^{2}x}[/tex]

Homework Equations


[tex]\int(x)dx=\frac{x^{n+1}}{n+1}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\frac{2+3sin^{2}x}{5sin^{2}x}=\frac{1}{5}(\frac{2}{sin^{2}x}+\frac{3sin^{2}x}{sin^{2}x})[/tex]

[tex]=\frac{1}{5}(\frac{2}{sin^{2}x}+\frac{3sin^{2}x}{sin^{2}x})[/tex]

[tex]=\frac{1}{5}(\frac{2}{sin^{2}x}+3)[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1}{5}\int\frac{2}{sin^{2}x}+3 dx=\frac{1}{5}(\frac{-2}{sin(x)cos(x)}+3x)+C[/tex]

This is wrong though because the answer is supposed to be:
[tex]\frac{1}{5}(3x-2cot(x))[/tex]

What did I do wrong?
 
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How did you go from

[tex]\int \frac{1}{\sin^2 x}\,dx[/tex]

to

[tex]-\frac{1}{\sin x\cos x}[/tex]
 
vela said:
How did you go from

[tex]\int \frac{1}{\sin^2 x}\,dx[/tex]

to

[tex]-\frac{1}{\sin x\cos x}[/tex]

Actually, now that I look at it that doesn't make sense. But I'm still stuck and can't figure out the steps before the answer...

[tex]\frac{1}{5}\int\frac{2}{sin^{2}x}+3 dx=?[/tex]
 
Hint: 1/sin x = csc x.
 
vela said:
Hint: 1/sin x = csc x.

[tex]\frac{1}{5}\int\frac{2}{sin^{2}x}+3 dx[/tex]

[tex]=\frac{1}{5}(3x+\int\frac{2}{sin^{2}x}dx)[/tex]

[tex]=\frac{1}{5}(3x+2csc^{2}x)[/tex]But the answer is:
[tex]\frac{1}{5}(3x-2cot(x))[/tex]
Found here

I have no idea where they got cotan from.
 
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Cmertin said:
[tex]\frac{1}{5}\int\frac{2}{sin^{2}x}+3 dx[/tex]

[tex]=\frac{1}{5}(3x+\int\frac{2}{sin^{2}x}dx)[/tex]

[tex]=\frac{1}{5}(3x+2csc^{2}x)[/tex]But the answer is:
[tex]\frac{1}{5}(3x-2cot(x))[/tex]
Found here

I have no idea where they got cotan from.
You never took the integral of the csc2(x). Take the derivative of tan(x) and see what you get.
 
To elaborate a bit on what Mentallic said, this is what you did:
[tex]\int \frac{2}{sin^2(x)}dx~=~\int 2~csc^2(x) dx~=~2csc^2(x)[/tex]

If only integration were that simple!
 
Mentallic said:
You never took the integral of the csc2(x). Take the derivative of tan(x) and see what you get.

Ah, the integral of csc2(x) is -cot(x). That's where my mistake was. Thanks.
 
Mark44 said:
To elaborate a bit on what Mentallic said, this is what you did:
[tex]\int \frac{2}{sin^2(x)}dx~=~\int 2~csc^2(x) dx~=~2csc^2(x)[/tex]

If only integration were that simple!

Yea, I wish it was that simple :P Thanks for the clarification.
 

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