Integrating Sec Tan^2: Solving the Square Root of (x^2-1) over the Interval 0-1

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The discussion revolves around integrating the square root of (x^2 - 1) over the interval from 0 to 1, with participants exploring the implications of this integral in the context of calculus and trigonometric identities.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the transformation of the integral using trigonometric identities, with one suggesting a substitution involving secant. There are questions about the validity of the problem setup, particularly regarding the nature of the function and its behavior over the specified interval.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights on potential approaches, including the use of integration by parts and the necessity of transforming the integral. There is also a critical examination of the problem statement itself, particularly concerning the function's domain and the implications of integrating over the interval given.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the function results in imaginary numbers for values of x in the interval (-1, 1), raising questions about the accuracy of the problem as presented.

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Homework Statement
Integrate the square root of (x^2 -1) over the interval 0-1.

The attempt at a solution

First off, I know this is a quarter of a circle, but I'm not supposed to solve it that way.
Now then:

x = sec theta
dx= sec tan theta.

square root (x^2-1) dx
becomes
square root (sec^2-1) sec tan

Square root (tan^2) sec tan

tan sec tan

sec tan^2

This is as far as I can get- I can't see any u substitutions that would work here, and don't know this integral off the top of my head either.
 
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You went from (tan^2)sec tan to just (tan^2)sec, it should be (tan^3)sec. That doesn't matter though, think about the graph and what the area is doing on the interval (0,1).
 
Hogger: There was a square root.

Integrals involving secants can be nasty; generally you have to integrate by parts. This is indeed the case with this integral, although first you should transform using identities to an integral only involving powers of secant. After integrating by parts once, you'll get an integral you've seen before, after which you can simply solve for it by algebraic means.
 
Integrate the square root of (x^2 -1) over the interval 0-1.
First off, I know this is a quarter of a circle, but I'm not supposed to solve it that way.
The equation y = \sqrt{x^2 - 1} is NOT the equation of a circle or any part of one.

The function above results in imaginary numbers for x in the interval (-1, 1). Are you sure that you have copied the problem correctly?
 

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