Integrating Trigonometric Functions and Evaluating Second Derivatives

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of the second derivative of a function defined by an integral involving trigonometric functions, specifically f(x) = ∫(from 0 to x) x sin(t^2) dt. Participants are tasked with showing that f''(x) = 2 sin(x^2) + 2x^2 cos(x^2).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the product rule and the fundamental theorem of calculus to derive the first and second derivatives without evaluating the integral directly. There is confusion regarding the correct expression for f'(x) and the implications of the integral's structure.

Discussion Status

Some participants have identified a typographical error in the expression for f''(x) and are exploring the correct application of differentiation techniques. Guidance has been provided on the necessity of using the product rule, and there is an acknowledgment of the initial misunderstanding regarding the integral's setup.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is an emphasis on clarifying assumptions about the integral and the differentiation process.

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Homework Statement


Let f (x) =int(x,0) x sin(t^2)dt. Show that f''(x)= 2 sin(x^2) + 2x2 cos(x^2)



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The Attempt at a Solution


I can't get f''(x)= 2 sin(x^2) + 2x2 cos(x^2), i can only get f''(x)= sin(x^2) + 2x2 cos(x^2).
Because f'(x)=xsin(x^2). can anyone see the problem?
 
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justinis123 said:

Homework Statement


Let f (x) =int(x,0) x sin(t^2)dt. Show that f''(x)= 2 sin(x^2) + 2x^2 cos(x^2)

1. Since the integral is with respect to "t" then you can take the factor of "x" out the front of the integral.

2. You should now be able to use the product rule and the fundamental Thm of calculus to get the answer without ever actually evaluating the integral.

BTW. I assumed that by "2x2" you actually meant 2x^2".
 
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justinis123 said:

The Attempt at a Solution


I can't get f''(x)= 2 sin(x^2) + 2x2 cos(x^2), i can only get f''(x)= sin(x^2) + 2x2 cos(x^2).
Because f'(x)=xsin(x^2). can anyone see the problem?

Yes that is the problem right there. See above about using the product rule to find f'.
 
Hi uart
Thanks for the reply. Yeah, that was a typo. It should be 2x^2 as you assumed.
what do u mean by using product rule to find f' ?
f'(x)=xsin(x^2), then using product rule to find f''(x)=sin(x^2) + 2x^2 cos(x^2).
Could you please show me how to find f'(x)? I am a bit confused.
thanks
 
justinis123 said:
Hi uart
Thanks for the reply. Yeah, that was a typo. It should be 2x^2 as you assumed.
what do u mean by using product rule to find f' ?
f'(x)=xsin(x^2), then using product rule to find f''(x)=sin(x^2) + 2x^2 cos(x^2).
Could you please show me how to find f'(x)? I am a bit confused.
thanks

You're making your mistake at the first step in finding f'. You need to use the product rule to find f' (and then again to find f''). Re-read my first post about taking the "x" out the front of the original integral before you even start, this is the key.

BTW. The expression for f' that you obtained would be correct if the integrand was t sin(t^2) dt but it' not. It's x sin(t^2)dt. So you have to re think your original approach and follow my advice.
 
Thanks , i see the problem. I fixed the issue and got the right answer.
 

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