Integrating x^2tan x+y^3+4 over Area Symmetric

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The problem involves integrating the function ∫ x^2tan x + y^3 + 4 over a symmetric area defined by the region D = {(x,y)|x^2+y^2≤2}. Participants are exploring the implications of the symmetry of the region and the nature of the integrand.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the symmetry of the area and consider different orders of integration. There is uncertainty about how to handle the term x^2tan x, with suggestions of using integration by parts. Some participants question the treatment of odd functions in the context of the integral over the symmetric region.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering different approaches and questioning assumptions about the symmetry and the nature of the functions involved. Some guidance has been provided regarding integration techniques, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach.

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Participants note that the functions x^2tan x and y^3 are odd, which may affect the evaluation of the integrals over the symmetric region. There is also mention of the area of the circle being relevant to the integration of the constant term.

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Help! I was wondering if anyone can help me integrate:

∫ x^2tan x + y^3 +4 dA, where D is the region represented by D = {(x,y)|x2+y2≤2}


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I think that the area is symmetric, and so basically you only need to evalute from 0≤ x ≤ √(2-y^2) and 0≤ y ≤ √2. Or you can do x first and evaluate it from 0 ≤ y ≤ √ (1-x^2) and 0≤ x ≤ √2. But I'm not sure how to evaluate x^2 tan x? I don't think doing dy first will help either since I get the following: x^2*√ (1-x^2)*tan x? Thanks!
 
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I've been playing around with this, and I think I've made some progress.

Integrate the first term in the integrand with respect to [itex]x[/itex] first. Do it by parts with [itex]u=x \tan(x)[/itex] and [itex]dv=x dx[/itex]. You should be able to express the integral in terms of [itex]\int x^3\sec^2(x)dx[/itex]. Integrate that by parts with [itex]u=x^3[/itex] and [itex]dv=sec^2(x)dx[/itex].

Give that a try and see how it goes. I haven't finished it yet, but it looks like it will work.
 
bodensee9 said:

Homework Statement


Help! I was wondering if anyone can help me integrate:

∫ x^2tan x + y^3 +4 dA, where D is the region represented by D = {(x,y)|x2+y2≤2}


Homework Equations


I think that the area is symmetric, and so basically you only need to evalute from 0≤ x ≤ √(2-y^2) and 0≤ y ≤ √2. Or you can do x first and evaluate it from 0 ≤ y ≤ √ (1-x^2) and 0≤ x ≤ √2. But I'm not sure how to evaluate x^2 tan x? I don't think doing dy first will help either since I get the following: x^2*√ (1-x^2)*tan x? Thanks!
This is, of course, the same as
[tex]\int x^2 tan x dA+ \int y^3 dA+ \int 4 dA[/tex]
Yes, the region [itex]D= {(x,y)| x^2+ y^2\le 2}[/itex] is a circle and so is symmetric. But why do you then say you need only integrate in the first quadrant? x2tan x and y3 are both ODD functions. Their integrals on opposite sides of the axes will cancel, not add. It looks to me like this is just [itex]\int 4 dA[/itex] or just 4 times the area of the circle.
 
Oh I see! Thanks!
 

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