Integration and log of a complex number

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The discussion revolves around evaluating an integral involving complex numbers and logarithms, specifically focusing on the integral of a function over a circular path in the complex plane. Participants are exploring the relationship between the integral and the complex logarithm, as well as the implications of using the residue theorem.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to understand how the integral evaluates to a specific value, questioning the role of the complex logarithm and the integration path. There are discussions about changing variables and the implications of singularities in the context of the integral.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on using the residue theorem and changing variables to simplify the integral. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the logarithm and its ambiguity, with various approaches being explored without a clear consensus on the best method.

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Participants note that the problem constraints require avoiding certain theorems, such as Cauchy's integral theorem, which adds to the complexity of the discussion. There is also mention of differing results from computational tools, indicating potential confusion in the evaluation process.

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Hey,

I know the answer to this integral is 2ipi as it was given but I trying to find out how its 2ipi.

Here is my working

[PLAIN]http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1681/unledrny.jpg

I've been looking at this for ages and I can't work out what I've done wrong


thanks,
 
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The complex logarithm is ambiguous (as you have already found out) and therefore not always suitable. I would check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_logarithm#Constructing_branches_via_integration very carefully, I'm not sure if you can actually use the logarithm here.
You can always substitute [itex]u=e^{it}[/itex].
What will you get as an expression then?
What will be the integration path?
Can you spot a singularity? Calculate its residue and you're done :)
 
If I change variables to u = e^(it) will i get,

du/dt = ie^(it), so dt=1/(ie^(it)

so int (2u/(2u-1))e^(-it) du, this is where I am going to stuff up a lot, i did it two ways, since u =e^(it) they cancel, so you get in int (2/(2u-1)) du then that integral ends up as the nasty log in it again so then i tried
leaving the e^(it)
and i got the nasty log thing + u - 1/2

I've been looking over my notes and the only stuff about logs he has given use is that log(z)=log|z| + i arg(z), i tried in mathematica and wolframalpha separately and they gave different answers haha, wolfram gave 2ipi thought
 
Forget logarithm! I mean, I can't really tell you why, but maybe someone else can.

So, let's go through it
[tex] \int_0^{2\pi} \frac{2ie^{it}}{2e^{it}-1} dt[/tex]
[tex]u=e^{it}[/tex]
[tex]du = i e^{it} dt[/tex]
So the integral becomes
[tex]\int_S \frac{2}{2u -1} du[/tex]
where you integrate over the unit circle.
Now, the function has a simple pole at u=1/2. Now calculate the residue of this point and you will get that it's 1. Apply the residue theorem and you will get that the value of the integral is 2 pi i.
 
Oh right,

Sorry this is the first time I've every read about residue or the residue theorem.

This question was actually a question that's really easy to answer with cauchy's integral theorem, but they asked to do it without using it, I know the answer to the question is 6ipi using CIF and i end up with 3[log(ew)] between 0..2Pi

its just integrating (z^2+z+1)/(z-1) dz over a circle of radius 2, so like 1 step using the cauchy integral formula haha

What I've done is used long division, found most things cancel and end up with the 3log buisness
 

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