Integration as a Linear Transformation

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The discussion revolves around the concept of integration as a linear transformation within the context of polynomial functions. Participants are examining the conditions under which integration can be classified as a linear transformation, particularly focusing on the implications of the constant term in the integration process.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the definition of linear transformations and question whether integration meets these criteria when the constant term is not zero. There is a discussion about the implications of the condition F(0) = 0 on the linearity of integration.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the definitions and properties of linear transformations. Some have raised questions about the necessity of specific conditions for integration to be considered linear, while others are seeking clarification on the definitions involved.

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There is an emphasis on the definitions of linearity and the specific conditions under which integration operates, particularly in relation to polynomial functions. The discussion highlights the importance of the initial condition F(0) = 0 in determining the linearity of the integration process.

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I: P(R) → P(R) such that I(a0+a1x + ... + anxn) = 0 + a0x + (a1x2)/2 + ... + (an xn+1)/(n+1)

Clearly this is just integration such that c = 0. It is easily shown that integration is a linear transformation, so I conclude that I is a linear transformation.

However, in calculus we do not usually require that c = 0. Yet integration, if it is a linear transformation, must map the zero vector of the domain to the zero vector of the codomain. Let f(x) = a0 + a1x. Then F(x) = a0x + (a1x2)/2 + c. A polynomial is zero iff all of its coefficients are zero. If we decide that c is not necessarily zero, doesn't this iff fail? That is, is integration a linear transformation only when we stipulate that c=0?
 
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Let U,V be vector spaces. A function T:U→V is said to be linear if T(ax+by)=aTx+bTy for all scalars a,b and all vectors x,y.

If U=V=ℝ, then the T defined by T(x)=ax+b is clearly not linear, unless b=0. (When U=V=ℝ, both the "scalars" and the "vectors" are members of ℝ). You're working with a different space, and I didn't even read your problem carefully, but my point is just that you need to use the definition of "linear" above, instead of your intuition about what a "line" is. That's why I'm mentioning that the only functions from ℝ to ℝ that are linear are the ones whose graphs are straight lines through the origin.
 
And doesn't integration satisfy your definition of linear?

∫(f(x) + g(x)) dx = ∫f(x)dx + ∫g(x)dx, for two functions, f,g, in P(R)
∫r(f(x))dx = r∫f(x)dx, for some r in R

Is that not true? And isn't it true that linear transformations must map the zero vector of the domain to the zero vector of the codomain? Maybe I'm misunderstanding.
 
Note that the statement of the problem specifically said "Let F(x) be the polynomial with F(0)= 0 such that F'= f".

If that condition "with F(0)= 0" were not there, this "theorem" would not be true.
 
Does that indicate that integration without the condition "F(0) = 0" is not a linear transformation?
 
TranscendArcu said:
Does that indicate that integration without the condition "F(0) = 0" is not a linear transformation?
Perhaps you can tell us. :smile: If f,g are arbitrary polynomials, a,b are arbitrary real numbers, and I denotes the map ##f\mapsto F##, what is I(af+bg)?
 

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