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The discussion revolves around the application of integration by parts to various integrals, including both definite and indefinite forms. Participants are exploring techniques to solve integrals involving exponential functions, logarithmic expressions, and polynomial roots.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss different choices for u and dv in the integration by parts formula. There are attempts to clarify the integration of specific functions, such as e^(1-x) and ln(√x). Some participants question the correctness of derivatives and integration steps, while others suggest alternative approaches or substitutions.

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Several participants have successfully solved parts of the problem, particularly parts (a) and (b). There is ongoing exploration of parts (c) and (d), with some participants expressing confusion and seeking further clarification. Guidance has been offered regarding the selection of u and dv, as well as specific integration techniques.

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Some participants mention a lack of recent experience with calculus, which may contribute to their difficulties. There are references to textbook solutions and the need for clarification on integration techniques, indicating that the discussion is framed within a homework help context.

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Formula for integration by parts:

[tex]\int f(x)dx = \int u dv = uv - \int v du[/tex]
Use integration by parts to find the following integrals:

a) [tex]\int x e^{1-x} dx[/tex]

b) [tex]\int_1^4 \frac {ln \sqrt x} {\sqrt x} dx[/tex]

c) [tex]\int_{-2}^1 (2x+1)(x+3)^{3/2} dx[/tex]

d) [tex]\int x^3 \sqrt{3x^2+2} dx[/tex]

Answers in back of the book:

a) [tex]-e^{1-x}(x+1)+C[/tex]

b) 4 ln 2 - 2

c) [tex]\frac{74}{4}[/tex]

d) [tex]\frac {1}{9}x^2(3x^2+2)^{\frac {3}{2}}-\frac{2}{135}(3x^2+2)^{\frac {5}{2}} +C[/tex]

My attempts:

a) [tex]\int xe^{(1-x)} dx[/tex]

[tex]u = x[/tex]

[tex]dv = e^{1-x} dx[/tex]

[tex]du = 1[/tex]

[tex]v = -e^{1-x}[/tex]

which gives:

[tex]-xe^{1-x} - \int -e^{1-x}(1)[/tex]

[tex]-xe^{1-x} - e^{1-x}[/tex]

[tex]-e^{1-x}(x+1) +C[/tex]

GOT IT! Thanks Melawrghk and dx!b) [tex]\int_1^4 \frac {ln \sqrt x} {\sqrt x} dx[/tex]

[tex]u = ln x^{{1}{2}}[/tex]

[tex]dv = x^{\frac {-1}{2}}[/tex]

[tex]du = \frac { \frac {1}{2}\sqrt x}{\sqrt x} = \frac {1}{2x}[/tex]

[tex]v = 2x^{\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]

which gives:

[tex]ln x^{\frac {1}{2}} 2x^{\frac{1}{2}} - \int 2x^{\frac{1}{2}} \frac {1}{2x}[/tex]

[tex]ln x^{\frac {1}{2}} 2x^{\frac{1}{2}} - \int \frac{x^{\frac {1}{2}}}{x}[/tex]

[tex]ln x^{\frac {1}{2}} 2x^{\frac{1}{2}} - \int x^{\frac {-1}{2}}[/tex]

[tex]ln x^{\frac {1}{2}} 2x^{\frac{1}{2}} - 2x^{\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]

[tex]2x^{\frac{1}{2}}(ln x^{\frac {1}{2}}-1)[/tex]

Plug in 4 and 1:

[tex]4(ln2-1)-2(ln1-1)[/tex]

[tex]= 4ln2-4+2[/tex]

[tex]= 4ln2-2[/tex]

GOT IT! Thanks again dx!

I'm looking at the other two and I'm blanking.

I've been out of school for three years, and jumped right into business calculus since it's a requirement. So I apologize if this is elementary, but I've been banging my head on this for hours now... and of course the teacher is nowhere to be found. :cry:

Thanks in advance!

EDIT: Got a correct now, thanks to Melawrghk and dx.
 
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For a), switch your u and dv and try again :)

EDIT: and for b), check your derivative of ln(sqrt(x)). sqrt(x) can be written as x^(1/2), so when you take the derivative you'll get (1/2)x^(3/2). Coupled with the square root of x on the bottom it will cancel nicely.
 
For part (a), v = e1-x would be a better choice.
 
Is [tex]\int e^{1-x} = e^{1-x}[/tex] ?

Edit: I'm only assuming this because

[tex]\int e^{x} = e^{x}[/tex]

... but now that I think about it...

[tex]\int e^{1-x} = \frac {1}{1-x} e^{1-x+1} = \frac {1}{1-x} e^{x}[/tex]

right?
 
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Melawrghk said:
EDIT: and for b), check your derivative of ln(sqrt(x)). sqrt(x) can be written as x^(1/2), so when you take the derivative you'll get (1/2)x^(3/2). Coupled with the square root of x on the bottom it will cancel nicely.

Wouldn't the derivative of x^(1/2) = (1/2)x^(-1/2)?
 
aleao said:
Is [tex]\int e^{1-x} = e^{1-x}[/tex] ?

Edit: I'm only assuming this because

[tex]\int e^{x} = e^{x}[/tex]

... but now that I think about it...

[tex]\int e^{1-x} = \frac {1}{1-x} e^{1-x+1} = \frac {1}{1-x} e^{x}[/tex]

right?

Nope. ∫ e1-x dx = -e1-x. Use the substitution t = 1-x to see why.
 
aleao said:
Wouldn't the derivative of x^(1/2) = (1/2)x^(-1/2)?

Yes, that's correct.
 
dx said:
Nope. ∫ e1-x dx = -e1-x. Use the substitution t = 1-x to see why.

Aha! Great, now I got part a and edited up there. Thanks :)
 
For part (b), use v = √x.
 
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dx said:
For part (b), use v = √x.

Could you walk me through this method, please?

I'm taught to look at the equation and assign u and dv. Then derive u to get du and integrate dv to get v.

The book says:

Step 1: Choose functions u and v so that f(x)dx = u dv. Try to pick u so that du is simpler than u and a dv that is easy to integrate.

Step 2: Organize the computation... (they put it in a neat box :-p)

Step 3: Complete the integration by finding ∫f(x) dx = ∫ u dv = uv - ∫ v du

So I'm not sure how I assign v = √x directly.

Here's the problem again:

[tex] \int_1^4 \frac {ln \sqrt x} {\sqrt x} dx[/tex]
 
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Hint: If v = √x, then

[tex]dv = \frac{dx}{2\sqrt{x}}[/tex]
 
  • #12
Got part b! Dx, you rock!
 
  • #13
OK so for part d I'm running into a seemingly basic problem. I'm not sure how to integrate √(3x2+2)

I'm just fried...
 
  • #14
aleao said:
OK so for part d I'm running into a seemingly basic problem. I'm not sure how to integrate √(3x2+2)

I'm just fried...

You have a direct formula for that.
 
  • #15
What is the formula? I'm trying to study for tomorrow morning's final, doing these practice questions and papers are everywhere.
 
  • #16
http://planetmath.org/encyclopedia/IntegrationFormulas.html
 
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  • #17
Don't use a formula, splitting it up in x^3 and the root is a poor way to split things. Do it like this instead.

[tex]x^3 \sqrt{3x^2+2}=x^2*x\sqrt{3x^2+2}[/tex]. Now use partial integration and note that [itex]x\sqrt{3x^2+2}[/itex] is really easy to integrate by substituting u=3x^2+2, or even "guessing" the primitive.
 
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Oops.. My apologies... I just read the post no 13 and not the original post. So i just thought its [itex]sqrt{3x^2+2}[/itex] and didnt notice the x cube
 

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