Integration by Parts for ln(sqrt(x^2-4)) | Solving Tricky Integration Problems

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The problem involves integrating the function ln(sqrt(x^2-4)), which presents challenges in finding an appropriate method for solution. The subject area is calculus, specifically focusing on integration techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts integration by parts but expresses uncertainty about how to proceed after their initial steps. Some participants suggest that integration by parts could be applied again, while others propose using polynomial division or partial fractions as alternative methods. There is also a suggestion to simplify the logarithmic expression using properties of logarithms.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with multiple approaches being explored. Participants are providing insights and suggestions, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed. The original poster acknowledges a helpful suggestion, indicating a productive exchange.

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There is a mention of the original poster's struggle with u-substitution and the need for a different integration technique. The problem context includes considerations of logarithmic properties and the structure of the integrand.

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Homework Statement



The the problem is integrate ln(sqrt(x^2-4)

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For this one u-sub does not work, which leads me to think that integration by parts is the way to go but am not sure how to finish it.



The Attempt at a Solution



u =1/2ln(x^2-4)
du = (1/2)(2x/(x^2-4)) = x^2/(x^2-4)

dv = dx ----> int dx = x = v

x(1/2ln(x^2-4)) - int (x^2)/(X^2-4)

I don't know what to do about the part in bold. I am thinking integration by part again but that doesn't look like it will work, unless there is one more integration to do. Any idea what i can try?

Thanks!
 
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I think parts can work again, since 1 / x^2 - 4 is easy enough to integrate, then you'll need to integrate xarctan(x/2) which should be fine
 
Use polynomial division to write x^2/(x^2-4)=1+4/(x^2-4). Looks more to me like 'partial fractions' than 'parts'.
 
Write it as
ln(x^2 - 4)^1/2

and also note that it's a difference of 2 squares. Then just use the log properties to reduce this to something easier and you can then use integration by parts.
 
Thanks Dave! I did not see that, but it certainlly makes sense now.
 

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