Integration by parts ln(x^2+14x+24)

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the natural logarithm of a quadratic expression, specifically ∫ ln(x^2+14x+24) using integration by parts. The original poster outlines their approach and the challenges faced in further simplifying the integral.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts integration by parts, selecting u and dv, and expresses difficulty in integrating the resulting expression. Some participants suggest factoring the quadratic and using properties of logarithms, while others recommend long division and partial fractions for the remaining integral.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various strategies and insights. There is a recognition of the importance of including the differential in the integral, and multiple approaches are being explored without a clear consensus on the best method.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the importance of factoring quadratics within logarithmic functions and highlight potential grading implications for omitting the differential in integrals.

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Homework Statement



∫ ln(x^2+14x+24)

Homework Equations



Integration by parts: ∫ udv = uv - ∫ vdu

The Attempt at a Solution



I chose u = ln(x^2+14x+24) and dv = dx therefore

du = 2x+14/x^2+14x+24 and v = x

Then once I substitute, I get:

∫ ln(x^2+14x+24) = xln(x^2+14x+24) - ∫ (x(2x+14))/x^2+14x+24

Now I can't figure out how to integrate ∫ (x(2x+14))/x^2+14x+24. I've tried multiplying out, factoring. I thought I might have to use integration by parts again but it's not working out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
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Try factoring
x^2+14x+24=(x+2)(x+12)
ln(ab)=ln(a)+ln(b)
 
for the method you used:

to integrate the remaining quotient, use long division and then partial fraction.

*by the way, you should put dx in your integral... some prof. take points off for that.
 
As they should, forgetting your differential is a crime!

And yes, christianjbs idea is quite easier
 
In fact, if you see ANY quadratic equation inside LN, factor it, even if the solutions are ugly. Makes things much easier.
 

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