Integration: completing the square and inverse trig functions

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The problem involves evaluating the integral \(\int(x+2)dx/\sqrt{3+2x-x^2}\) using techniques such as completing the square and substitution. The subject area is calculus, specifically integration and inverse trigonometric functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to complete the square and substitute variables to simplify the integral. They express confusion regarding the results of two different integrals involving \(\int u du/\sqrt{a^2-u^2}\) and seek clarification on the discrepancy between their understanding and the textbook's answer.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's confusion, offering explanations and alternative approaches. Some suggest using trigonometric substitution to clarify the integral's evaluation. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to explore the reasoning behind the different results without reaching a definitive conclusion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the relationship between the integrals and the derivatives of the results, indicating a focus on conceptual understanding rather than simply obtaining answers.

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Homework Statement



Find \int(x+2)dx/sqrt(3+2x-x2)

Homework Equations



\intdu/sqrt(a2 - u2) = sin-1u/a

The Attempt at a Solution



I began by completing the square:
3+2x-x2 = 4 -(x2-2x+1)

So, 4-(x-1)2 = a2-u2 and a=2 and u=(x-1)
Further, since x=(u+1), dx=du and (x+2)=(u+3)

Substituting, I got:

\int(x+2)dx/sqrt(3+2x-x2) = \int(u+3)du/sqrt(a2-u2)

= \intudu/sqrt(a2-u2) + 3\intdu/sqrt(a2-u2)

This is where I get confused. I know that 3\intdu/sqrt(a2-u2) = 3sin-1u/a

But, according to my book, \intudu/sqrt(a2-u2) = -sqrt(a2-u2) and I don't understand why.

Can someone offer an explanation? Thanks.
 
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JOhnJDC said:

This is where I get confused. I know that 3\intdu/sqrt(a2-u2) = 3sin-1u/a

But, according to my book, \intudu/sqrt(a2-u2) = -sqrt(a2-u2) and I don't understand why.

Can someone offer an explanation? Thanks.


using substitution

cos \theta = \frac{u}{a}
 
annoymage said:
using substitution

cos \theta = \frac{u}{a}

Are you saying that I should substitute u=a sin theta to obtain:

\intudu/sqrt(a2-u2) = \int(a sin theta)(a cos theta)(d theta)/(a cos theta) = a cos theta

So, u = a cos theta and cos theta = u/a, but u/a doesn't equal -sqrt(a2-u2)

What am I missing?
 
JOhnJDC said:

This is where I get confused. I know that 3\intdu/sqrt(a2-u2) = 3sin-1u/a

But, according to my book, \intudu/sqrt(a2-u2) = -sqrt(a2-u2) and I don't understand why.

Can someone offer an explanation? Thanks.


see the difference :
3\intdu/sqrt(a2-u2) = 3sin-1u/a

and

\intu du/sqrt(a2-u2) = -sqrt(a2-u2)

to obtain the second one, use : v = a2-u2
 
Just take the derivative of both answers and you'll see why.
 
I see it now. Thanks for your help.

\int(a2-u2)-1/2udu

Substitute v=a2-u2, dv=-2udu, udu=-dv/2

= -1/2\intv-1/2dv = -v-1/2 = -sqrt(a2-u2)
 

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