Integration given slope of tangent at specific point

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The discussion revolves around finding a function f given its second derivative f''(x) = 12x² + 2, with the additional condition that the slope of the tangent line at the point (1,1) is 3. Participants are exploring how to determine the constants of integration involved in the function.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the process of integrating the second derivative to find the function f and the constants involved. There are questions about how to set up the equations based on the conditions provided, particularly regarding the point through which the function must pass.

Discussion Status

Some participants have made progress in finding the constants c and d, while others are questioning the setup of their equations. There is a recognition of the need to ensure the function passes through the specified point, leading to further exploration of the conditions required for the solution.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement, which includes specific values for the slope and the point through which the function must pass. There is an emphasis on verifying the conditions after determining the function.

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Homework Statement


Find f if f"(x)=12x2+2 for which the slope of the tangent line to its graph at (1,1) is 3.

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What I did first was found f(x)=x4+x2+cx+d (cx and d being constants of integration.) and from this point I attempted solving for cx and d but was stuck here. It may just be the wording of the problem but I'm not sure where else to go. How do I know what to set f(x) equal to in order to solve cx and d?

Thank you for any suggestions/help.
 
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"The tangent to the graph of f through the point (α,β) is τ" means:

(1) The graph of f passes through this point (α,β).
(2) The value of f'(x) for x=α is τ.

This gives you two equations, f(...)=... and f'(...)=..., and that's all you need to find the two unknowns, c and d in your case.
 
So once I find c and d I plug them into f(x). Which is my final answer. I managed to find c= -3 by solving f'(1)=3. When I go to solve d what am I setting f(x) equal to? I found f(x) to be x^4+x^2-3x+d. I set this equal to 3 and plugged in 1 for x and got d= 4 making my answer f(x)=x^4+x^2-3x+4 however that equal does not pass through the point (1,1)?
 
B18 said:
So once I find c and d I plug them into f(x). Which is my final answer. I managed to find c= -3 by solving f'(1)=3. When I go to solve d what am I setting f(x) equal to? I found f(x) to be x^4+x^2-3x+d. I set this equal to 3 and plugged in 1 for x and got d= 4 making my answer f(x)=x^4+x^2-3x+4 however that equal does not pass through the point (1,1)?

If you want your curve to pass through (1,1) you want to set f(1)=1. Not f(1)=3.
 
Ok my final answer is f(x)=x4+x2-3x+2. Does that seem correct?
 
B18 said:
Ok my final answer is f(x)=x4+x2-3x+2. Does that seem correct?
You can check that quite easily by calculating f(1) and f'(1), which should be 1 and 3, respectively. (They are, so your solution is correct.)
 
Wonderful, thank you for the help guys.
 
B18 said:
Ok my final answer is f(x)=x4+x2-3x+2. Does that seem correct?
Make that f(x)=x4+x2-3x+2.

To add to what Michael said, it's easy to check, and something you should get into the habit of doing. You've already done all the heavy lifting.

There are basically three things you need to check:
1. Is f''(x) = 12x2 + 2?
2. Is f(1) = 1?
3. Is f'(1) = 3?

If you can answer yes to all three, then your solution is correct.
 
Thank you mark. I just had a hard time remember what statements meant what. If that makes sense. I did do the check and they all worked out thanks again.
 

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