Integration help with normalizing wave function

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The discussion revolves around normalizing a wave function represented by the equation ψ(x,t) = Ae-λxe-iωt. Participants are exploring the integration of the absolute square of the wave function over the entire real line to find the normalization constant A.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the integration of the function from -∞ to ∞ and compare it to the solution manual's approach of integrating from 0 to ∞ and multiplying by 2. There is a focus on the implications of using absolute values in the integrand and the resulting evaluations leading to different conclusions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights regarding the necessity of breaking the integral into parts due to the absolute value in the integrand. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct limits and the evaluation process, with no clear consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the integral as initially set up leads to infinity, prompting questions about the validity of the approach. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly interpreting the absolute value in the context of the integral.

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Homework Statement


ψ(x,t) = Ae-λxe-iwt

Normalize this and solve for A

Homework Equations


\int_{-∞}^{∞}|ψ|<sup>2</sup>dx = 1<h2>The Attempt at a Solution</h2><br /> I got to A<sup>2</sup>\int_{-∞}^{∞}e^{-2λx}dx<br /> <br /> The solution manual multiplies it by 2 and only goes from 0 to ∞ instead of from -∞ to ∞. I&#039;m trying to do it from -∞ to ∞ and I should get the same answer as the manual, but I&#039;m not. They get a finite non-zero answer, but integrating what I got to, I have -\frac{A^{2}}{2λ}e^{-2λx} and now, plugging in the limits of integration in for x, it will give me infinity as the answer.<br /> Anyone see where I made a mistake? Thanks.
 
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leroyjenkens said:
I got to A2\int_{-∞}^{∞}e^{-2λx}dx

The solution manual multiplies it by 2 and only goes from 0 to ∞ instead of from -∞ to ∞. I'm trying to do it from -∞ to ∞ and I should get the same answer as the manual, but I'm not. They get a finite non-zero answer, but integrating what I got to, I have -\frac{A^{2}}{2λ}e^{-2λx} and now, plugging in the limits of integration in for x, it will give me infinity as the answer.
Anyone see where I made a mistake? Thanks.
The integral as written above is infinite. It is not the same as integrating from ##0## to ##\infty## and multiplying by ##2##. Just plot the integrand to see this. If the integrand were ##e^{-2\lambda |x|}## (with absolute values) then it would be true.
 
jbunniii said:
The integral as written above is infinite. It is not the same as integrating from ##0## to ##\infty## and multiplying by ##2##. Just plot the integrand to see this. If the integrand were ##e^{-2\lambda |x|}## (with absolute values) then it would be true.

It is supposed to be absolute value. I keep forgetting about that. But now I'm getting 0 as the answer, since the ∞ in the exponent will make it look like this when I evaluate the integral over the limits:

-\frac{A^{2}}{2λ}[e^{-2λ∞}-e^{-2λ∞}]

Which is just

-\frac{A^{2}}{2λ}[0 - 0]

Which equals 0.

I know I'm doing something wrong, though.

Thanks for the response.
 
leroyjenkens said:
It is supposed to be absolute value. I keep forgetting about that. But now I'm getting 0 as the answer, since the ∞ in the exponent will make it look like this when I evaluate the integral over the limits:

-\frac{A^{2}}{2λ}[e^{-2λ∞}-e^{-2λ∞}]
What integral did you perform? What were the upper and lower limits?
 
jbunniii said:
What integral did you perform? What were the upper and lower limits?

Upper limit was ∞ and lower was -∞. I plug them in for x, and since it's the absolute value of x, they're both just ∞, which means it turns to 0.
 
leroyjenkens said:
Upper limit was ∞ and lower was -∞. I plug them in for x, and since it's the absolute value of x, they're both just ∞, which means it turns to 0.
So you are trying to perform this integral:
$$\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} e^{-2 \lambda |x|} dx$$
Because of the absolute value, you can't evaluate the integral without breaking it into parts. (If you believe otherwise, then you need to produce an antiderivative for ##e^{-2\lambda|x|}##.) Try writing it this way:
$$\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} e^{-2 \lambda |x|} dx =
\int_{-\infty}^{0} e^{-2 \lambda |x|} dx + \int_{0}^{\infty} e^{-2 \lambda |x|} dx$$
Next step: simplify the integrand in each case by replacing ##|x|## with something simpler.
 

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