Integration of a polynomial problem

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The discussion revolves around the integration of a polynomial function, specifically the integral I = ∫(4x³ - 6x² - 16x + 4) dx. The original poster is attempting to determine the value of this integral at x = -2, given that at x = 3, the integral equals -13. There is a noted discrepancy between the original poster's result and the suggested answer from the textbook.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster calculates the integral and attempts to find the constant of integration by substituting a known value. They express uncertainty about their calculations and whether they are making a mistake. Another participant points out a specific error related to the evaluation of powers and brackets.

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The discussion has progressed with participants providing feedback on the original poster's calculations. A clarification regarding the correct evaluation of powers has been offered, which seems to have helped the original poster arrive at the correct answer. However, there is no explicit consensus on the overall approach to the problem.

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The original poster mentions being new to integrals, which may influence their understanding and approach to the problem. There is also a reference to a specific textbook edition, indicating a shared resource among participants.

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Hi,
I'm using KA Stroud 6th edition (for anyone with the same book, P407) and there is a example question where I just can't seem to get the answer they have suggested:

Homework Statement


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Question:
Determine the value of I = ∫(4x3-6x2-16x+4) dx
when x = -2, given that at x = 3, I = -13
Their answer is when x = -2, I = 12.

The Attempt at a Solution


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I found the integral: I = ∫(4x3-6x2-16x+4) dx = x4-2x3-8x2+4x + C
and then substituted x for 3 and getting:
-13 = -33 + C
thus:
C = 20
Now when I replace x with -2, plus the constant, I get:
-24-2(-2)3-8(-2)2+4(-2) + 20 = -20

I'm a few days into Integrals so I feel I may be doing something daft?

Many thanks.
 
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MartinJH said:
Hi,
I'm using KA Stroud 6th edition (for anyone with the same book, P407) and there is a example question where I just can't seem to get the answer they have suggested:

Homework Statement


[/B]
Question:
Determine the value of I = ∫(4x3-6x2-16x+4) dx
when x = -2, given that at x = 3, I = -13
Their answer is when x = -2, I = 12.

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
I found the integral: I = ∫(4x3-6x2-16x+4) dx = x4-2x3-8x2+4x + C
and then substituted x for 3 and getting:
-13 = -33 + C
thus:
C = 20
Now when I replace x with -2, plus the constant, I get:
-24-2(-2)3-8(-2)2+4(-2) + 20 = -20

I'm a few days into Integrals so I feel I may be doing something daft?

Many thanks.
Your work is fine except for one minor thing. At the end you wrote -24 instead of (-2)4. In the first, 2 is raised to the 4th power, and then you take the negative, resulting in -16. In the latter, -2 is raised to the 4th power, resulting in +16.
 
That was an honest slip. I appreciate there is a difference between them both.
I finally got the answer, it was a case of not respecting the brackets and powers... I need a break.

Thanks for pointing that out and explaining! :)
 
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