Integration of partial derivatives

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The discussion centers on the integration of partial derivatives and the proper treatment of dummy variables in calculus. It emphasizes that the variable of integration is not part of the function being differentiated, which is crucial for correctly applying the fundamental theorem of calculus. Participants clarify that when differentiating an integral, one must use the correct variable, highlighting that the integral is a function of the limits and other variables, not the dummy variable. The conversation also addresses how to express the relationship between the integral and its derivatives, reinforcing that the differentiation must align with the correct variables involved. Understanding these concepts is essential for accurately performing integration and differentiation in multivariable calculus.
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The problem is attached in the picture. The top part shows what is written in the book, but I am not sure how they got to (∂I/∂v)...

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It's pretty obvious in the final term that the integral is with respect to 't' while the differential is with respect to 'v' . How did they simply convert F(x,v) into f(x,v)?

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You understand that the variable of integration is a "dummy" variable don't you? That the \int_a^x f(t)dt is a function of x, not t.

Here, an example would be
\int_{t= 3x}^{x^2} t^2- 2x dt= \left[\frac{1}{3}t^3- 2xt\right]_{3x}^{x^2}= \frac{1}{3}x^6- 2x^4- \left(\frac{1}{3}(27x^3)- 6x^2\right)
a function of x, not t.
 
HallsofIvy said:
You understand that the variable of integration is a "dummy" variable don't you? That the \int_a^x f(t)dt is a function of x, not t.

Here, an example would be
\int_{t= 3x}^{x^2} t^2- 2x dt= \left[\frac{1}{3}t^3- 2xt\right]_{3x}^{x^2}= \frac{1}{3}x^6- 2x^4- \left(\frac{1}{3}(27x^3)- 6x^2\right)
a function of x, not t.

Yes, but how can you reverse the integration by ∂/∂v ? Shouldn't it be ∂/∂t instead?

It's like saying F(x,y) = int f(x,y) dy

then

f(x,y) = ∂/∂z F(x,y)when they are clearly different variables - z and y.
 
If you say "yes" then you are you saying that you understand that this integral is NOT a function of t so it cannot be differentiated with respect to t. Go back and read what I said again. \int_u^v f(x,t)dt is a function of u, v, and x, NOT t.

You are the one who is try to differentiate with an incorrect variable.
 
HallsofIvy said:
If you say "yes" then you are you saying that you understand that this integral is NOT a function of t so it cannot be differentiated with respect to t. Go back and read what I said again. \int_u^v f(x,t)dt is a function of u, v, and x, NOT t.

You are the one who is try to differentiate with an incorrect variable.

So we simply look at what's the end-product, F(x,v) instead of the intermediate step?
 
Then does this hold?

I = F(x,v) - F(x,u)

∂I/∂x = f(x,v) - f(x,u)
 
When they say I= \int_{u(x)}^{v(x)}f(x,t)dt and then I= F(x,v)- F(x,u) they are really saying that F(x,v)= \int_a^{v(x) f(x,t)dt[/tex] and F(x,u)= \int_u^a f(x,t)dt[/tex] where a is any constant.<br /> <br /> By the fundamental theorem of Calculus, <br /> \frac{\partial}{\partial v}F(x, v)= f(x,v)<br /> <br /> We can write F(x,u)= \int_u^a f(x,t)dt= -\int_a^u f(x,t)dt so that <br /> \frac{\partial}{\partial u}F(x,u)= -f(x,u)<br /> <br /> Now, to find the derivative <b>with respect to x</b> use the chain rule.
 

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