Integration Question: How to Solve e^8x * sin(x) dx with Homework Equations

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function e^8x * sin(x) with respect to x. Participants are exploring the challenges associated with integrating products of functions, particularly in the context of integration techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the potential for a product rule in integration and the concept of integration by parts. There are questions about how to approach the integration of the product and whether using integration by parts multiple times is necessary.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the integration by parts method, suggesting it may be the appropriate approach. There is acknowledgment of the complexity involved in the integration process, and some participants are reflecting on their attempts and the results they obtained.

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One participant notes that the integration is part of a larger problem, indicating that there may be additional context or constraints not fully explored in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



int e^8x * sin(x) dx

Homework Equations



I can integrate each of them separately - it's the multiplication that confuses me.
Is there some sort of product rule for integration?
I'm not sure where to start, I just need a push in the right direction.

The Attempt at a Solution



This is part of a larger problem, but the rest is irrelevant.
Thanks
 
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There is a product rule, per say, for integration. It's pretty easy to derive, all you have to do is write out the product rule for differentiation, flip the operations from dy/dx to ∫ f(x) dx, and you can pretty quickly come to a conclusion by rearranging the equation.
 
I think I'm doing it wrong, because I just got two integrals that were just as hard:

int (e^8x * cos(x) dx) + int ((e^8)/8 * sin(x) dx)
 
The integration counterpart to the product rule in differentiation is called integration by parts, and that's probably what theJorge551 was alluding to.

If you do integration by parts twice, and have chosen the parts carefully, you will get an equation that you can solve algebraically for
[tex]\int e^{8x} sin(x)dx[/tex]
 
Thank you for clarifying, Mark; that is what I was alluding to.
 
I have solved it now...
I was familiar with the integration by parts, but would not have thought to use it twice - I had used it once and when I saw the new integral with cos() I assumed I had done it wrong.
Thanks a lot!
 

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