Integrationg over exp with two variables

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function f(x,y) = exp(-x^2 + xy - y^2) after a transformation involving new variables u and v. Participants are exploring the implications of this transformation and the subsequent double integral.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the Jacobian of the transformation and its implications for the double integral. There are attempts to establish the limits of integration for u and v based on the transformation and the original limits for x and y. Questions arise regarding the correct bounds for u and v, with some participants suggesting drawing the region in the xy-plane to clarify the limits.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning the assumptions about the limits of integration. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the variables, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct limits yet.

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There is uncertainty regarding the limits of integration for x and y, which affects the determination of the limits for u and v. Participants are encouraged to clarify these limits to proceed effectively.

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Homework Statement


f(x,y) = exp(-x^2 +xy -y^2)

transform with
x =(1/sqrt(2)) *(u – v), y = (1/sqrt(2))* (u + v) .


Homework Equations



Jacobian

The Attempt at a Solution



Jacobian = 1

f(u,v) = exp(-(u^2)/2 -(3v^2/2)

double integral f(u,v) du dv

the bounds would be x > 0 => ( u-v) >0 => u > v
and x < ∞ => u < ∞

v > 0 to v < ∞

I am lost on what to do next. If anyone can be as kind as to help, I would greatly appreciate it!
 
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hi there cutesteph! :smile:

(try using the X2 button just above the Reply box :wink:)

what are your limits for x and y ? :confused:

i'll assume they're both from 0 to ∞

draw the region (in x,y), and mark a grid of lines of equal u and v

u goes from 0 to ∞

for each value of u, where does v go from and to? :wink:
 
So the limits v from 0 to infinity and u from -v to v.

∫0 to∞ exp(-u2/2)∫-u to u exp(-3v2/2) dv du
 
cutesteph said:
So the limits v from 0 to infinity and u from -v to v.

isn't it the other way round?
 
cutesteph said:

Homework Statement


f(x,y) = exp(-x^2 +xy -y^2)

transform with
x =(1/sqrt(2)) *(u – v), y = (1/sqrt(2))* (u + v) .


Homework Equations



Jacobian

The Attempt at a Solution



Jacobian = 1

f(u,v) = exp(-(u^2)/2 -(3v^2/2)

double integral f(u,v) du dv

the bounds would be x > 0 => ( u-v) >0 => u > v
and x < ∞ => u < ∞

v > 0 to v < ∞

I am lost on what to do next. If anyone can be as kind as to help, I would greatly appreciate it!

You never actually answered the question about the limits on x and y, and without your answer I cannot possibly tell what are the limits on u and v. However, you can determine the latter for yourself by noting that
[tex]u = \frac{x+y}{\sqrt{2}}, \; v = \frac{y-x}{\sqrt{2}}[/tex]
If you know the ranges of x and y you can figure out the ranges on u and v.
 

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