Intensity in double slit interference

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of intensity in a double slit interference setup, focusing on the relationship between electric field expressions and intensity. Participants are examining the derivation of intensity from electric field equations and the implications of different factors in the calculations.

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  • Participants are exploring the derivation of intensity from the electric field, questioning the consistency of expressions that relate intensity to electric field terms. There is confusion regarding the proportionality of intensity to E*E versus E*E/2, and how this affects the final intensity expressions.

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Multiple interpretations of the intensity calculations are being explored, with participants providing different perspectives on the derivation process. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the electric field and intensity, but no consensus has been reached on the correct interpretation of the factors involved.

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Participants are working within the constraints of provided notes and prior knowledge, which may contain inconsistencies. The discussion highlights the importance of clarity in definitions and assumptions related to intensity and electric field relationships.

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I'm a little confused about a small detail when finding the intensity over the screen, as some notes I'm using happen to calculate the same thing twice, with a slight difference the second time.

Each method does the following
Call the electric field at any point E so we have
E=E0ei(kx1-wt)+E0ei(kx2-wt) with x1,x2 the paths from each of the two slits to a point on the screen.
Write each path in terms of a common path x starting midway between the slits, so x1 and x2 both have a path length difference of δ/2 relative to x. Let x1 be the shorter path.
Then x1=x-δ/2 and x2=x+δ/2, and
E=E0ei(kx-kδ/2-wt)+Eoei(kx+kδ/2-wt).
Factoring out the common terms gives
E=E0ei(kx-wt)[2cos(kδ/2)].

This is where this issue is. First it says that the intensity is proportional to E*E whilst later it says it is proportional to E*E/2.

This would give either
4E02cos2(kδ/2)->I=4I0cos2(kδ/2), or
2E02cos2(kδ/2)->I=2I0cos2(kδ/2).
Now the first of these is the expression I always see, so must be right.

I'm a little confused by this. I feel like I might be missing something with regards to time averaging the time varying term as in the E*E/2 method. Can somebody clear this up, thanks :)
 
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physiks said:
Factoring out the common terms gives
E=E0ei(kx-wt)[2cos(kδ/2)].

This is where this issue is. First it says that the intensity is proportional to E*E whilst later it says it is proportional to E*E/2.

The intensity is proportional to both E2 and E2/2 .The intensity of the incident light is I0= K E02. The intensity of the diffracted light is I=K [2cos(δ/2)E0]2=[2cos(δ/2)]2 KE02, that is I=4cos2(δ/2) I0.

ehild
 
ehild said:
The intensity is proportional to both E2 and E2/2 .The intensity of the incident light is I0= K E02. The intensity of the diffracted light is I=K [2cos(δ/2)E0]2=[2cos(δ/2)]2 KE02, that is I=4cos2(δ/2) I0.

ehild

Why not:

The intensity is proportional to both E2 and E2/2 .The intensity of the incident light is I0= K E02. The intensity of the diffracted light is I=0.5K [2cos(δ/2)E0]2=0.5[2cos(δ/2)]2 KE02, that is I=2cos2(δ/2) I0.
 
physiks said:
Why not:

The intensity is proportional to both E2 and E2/2 .The intensity of the incident light is I0= K E02. The intensity of the diffracted light is I=0.5K [2cos(δ/2)E0]2=0.5[2cos(δ/2)]2 KE02, that is I=2cos2(δ/2) I0.

In that case, I0=0.5K E02. Be consistent.

ehild
 
physiks said:
This is where this issue is. First it says that the intensity is proportional to E*E whilst later it says it is proportional to E*E/2.

This would give either
4E02cos2(kδ/2)->I=4I0cos2(kδ/2), or
2E02cos2(kδ/2)->I=2I0cos2(kδ/2).
Now the first of these is the expression I always see, so must be right.
In the second line, you replaced ##E_0^2## by ##I_0##, but it should be ##2(E_0^2/2) = 2 I_0##.
 

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