Interface conditions for heat transfer

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around interface conditions for heat transfer between different materials, specifically focusing on scenarios involving solids in perfect contact and a fluid flowing over a solid. Participants explore the mathematical formulations and physical implications of these conditions in both steady-state and transient heat transfer contexts.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes two conditions for perfect contact between solids: T1 = T2 and \kappa_1 T1_x = \kappa_2 T2_x, or T1 = T2 and \alpha_1 T1_x = \alpha_2 T2_x, questioning which condition accurately represents real physics.
  • Another participant confirms that continuity in temperature and heat flux exists at the interface, stating k1dt/dn = k2dt/dn at the interface, and reiterates the temperature condition mentioned earlier.
  • For the fluid flowing over a solid, a participant describes the use of a film coefficient to relate heat flux at the solid to the temperature difference between the bulk fluid and the surface temperature, referring to this as a mixed boundary condition.
  • A different participant introduces the concept of discontinuous weighting functions when solving the Fourier equation for transient heat transfer in a domain with two solids of differing thermal properties.
  • There is a question regarding the applicability of Newton's law of cooling in the context of fluid/solid heat transfer, with a participant expressing uncertainty about modeling heat transfer when the solid is not surrounded by a sufficiently large fluid domain.
  • Another participant confirms that the mixed boundary condition is indeed related to Newton's law of cooling and seeks clarification on the specifics of the situation involving the solid and fluid domain.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the continuity of temperature and heat flux at the interface between solids. However, there are competing views regarding the appropriate boundary conditions for heat transfer involving a fluid, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of modeling heat transfer when the solid is not surrounded by a large fluid domain.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the definitions of thermal properties and the assumptions regarding the size of the fluid domain in relation to the solid. The discussion also highlights unresolved mathematical steps related to the application of discontinuous weighting functions.

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I have two different scenarios for heat transfer I need some help with understanding.

1.) Given two different materials in perfect contact with each other with no thermal resistance at the interface, what are the interface conditions at the interface? Considering two heat equations with variables T1 and T2, the possible conditions would be
I.) T1 = T2 and \kappa_1 T1_x = \kappa_2 T2_x,
II.) T1 = T2 and \alpha_1 T1_x = \alpha_2 T2_x
where \kappa_{1,2} is the thermal conductivity and \alpha_{1,2} is the thermal diffusivity. From a mathematical point of view, both give a well-posed coupling but only one should represent real physics.

2.) Same situation, but with a fluid flowing over a solid?
 
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For two solids, continuity exists both in temperature and heat flux. In one dimension,
k1dt/dn = k2dt/dn at n=interface. The temperature condition you have already noted.

For fluid flowing over a solid, the situation is linked by using a film coefficient such that the heat flux at the solid equals a film coefficient multiplied by the difference in bulk fluid temperature and the surface temperature of the object. It is generally considered a boundary condition (commonly called the mixed condition). That is how it is mathematically handled.

There are formulas that provide the film coefficient based on whether the flow is laminar or turbulent based on fluid properties such as density, viscosity, specific heat, and fluid conductivity. Velocity is also important.
 
If, per chance, you are trying to solve the Fourier equation for transient heat transfer in one dimension by separation of variables and your domain in space consists of two different solids with differing thermal properties, you have to use what is called discontinuous weighting functions to maintain orthogonality of eigenfunctions.
 
Thank you for the reply! It was along the lines I had expected. Is it Newton's law of cooling you refer to in the fluid/solid problem? I was considering a situation when the solid is not surrounded by a fluid domain big enough such that the heat transfer can be modeled by a boundary condition.
 
jens000 said:
Thank you for the reply! It was along the lines I had expected. Is it Newton's law of cooling you refer to in the fluid/solid problem? I was considering a situation when the solid is not surrounded by a fluid domain big enough such that the heat transfer can be modeled by a boundary condition.

Yes, the mixed bc is Newton's law of cooling.

"I was considering a situation when the solid is not surrounded by a fluid domain big enough such that the heat transfer can be modeled by a boundary condition."

Can you be more specific? I'm not sure what you are alluding to here.
 

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