Solve Ellipsoid Problem: Integrate cos(theta)*sqrt[cos^2(theta) - (x^2/a^2)]

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The discussion revolves around integrating the equation cos(theta)*sqrt[cos^2(theta) - (x^2)/(a^2)] with respect to d(theta). A participant suggests that integration by parts may not be necessary and recommends using substitution instead, specifically replacing cos^2(theta) with 1 - sin^2(theta) and letting v = sin(theta). The original poster expresses frustration with their attempts at integration by parts, finding it increasingly complex. They seek clarification on whether their approach is correct and which values to assign for u and v' in integration by parts. The conversation highlights the importance of substitution methods in solving the integration problem effectively.
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Homework Statement


someone asked the ellipsiod problem before and i didnt under stand anythign in the repsonces >< but i had already gotten this far that my equation (simplified) is

cos(theta)*sqrt[cos^2(theta) - (x^2)/(a^2)]

i need to integrate this equation with respect to d(theta)

or even just this part: sqrt[cos^2(theta) - (x^2)/(a^2)]
(if intergration by parts is required)

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The Attempt at a Solution




i tried using by parts but i ended up with a lot of numbers getting more and more complex

i at least need to know if by using integration by parts is heading in the right direction for this
and if it is, then which values do i set for the v' and u?

i've tried both ways but neither seems to be gettig me anywhere, I've had to do so many different intergrations by part for each because there are more within each one.


or is there some rule that i should be using to solve for this intergration?

thanks in advance
 
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Yura said:

Homework Statement


someone asked the ellipsiod problem before and i didnt under stand anythign in the repsonces >< but i had already gotten this far that my equation (simplified) is

cos(theta)*sqrt[cos^2(theta) - (x^2)/(a^2)]

i need to integrate this equation with respect to d(theta)

or even just this part: sqrt[cos^2(theta) - (x^2)/(a^2)]
(if intergration by parts is required)
I cannot imagine why integration by parts would be required- it's an easy substitution: replace cos^2(theta) with 1- sin^2(theta) and then let v= sin(theta)

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution




i tried using by parts but i ended up with a lot of numbers getting more and more complex

i at least need to know if by using integration by parts is heading in the right direction for this
and if it is, then which values do i set for the v' and u?

i've tried both ways but neither seems to be gettig me anywhere, I've had to do so many different intergrations by part for each because there are more within each one.


or is there some rule that i should be using to solve for this intergration?

thanks in advance
 
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