Internal energy when filling an evacuated tank

In summary: My latex isn't working either so I can't really answer that. However, I think that the concept is still valid even if the work PV is not constant. In summary, the internal energy of the gas in the tank is equal to the enthalpy of the gas in the entrance line.
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This is the example 2.12 from "Introduction to Chemical Engineering Thermodynamics", 6th. ed, by Smith, Van Ness & Abbott:

"An evacuated tank is filled with gas from a constant-pressure line. What is the relation between the enthalpy of the gas in the entrance line and the internal energy of the gas in the tank? Neglect heat transfer between the gas and the tank."

The solution is that the internal energy of the gas in the tank is equal to the enthalpy of the gas in the entrance line.

Although I could solve the exercise, I can't say I've really understood/accepted the result.

Two objections I have to it:

a) the gas filling the evacuated tank is not doing any work, so it seems to me that the product PV (H = U + PV) is of no interest here.

b) I can imagine that the entrance line is connected to a huge tank that supplies gas at the same pressure available at the line and that the filling of the evacuated tank will have a neglegible effect over that huge tank. When the flow ceases, the gas at both reservoir will have the same properties, equal to the original ones of the huge tank. As a consequence, the internal energy of the gas in the tank will be equal to the internal energy of the gas in the entrance line, and not equal to its enthalpy.

Can anyone please clarify which concept I have not understood correctly?
 
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Point a) the gas has work done on it so it enters into the tank. ( from the gas in the line behind it )
 
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Since the tank is an evacuated one, the gas entering the tank is submited to a free expansion, and during free expansion, no work is done by the gas, is it?
 
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In a free expansion there is no back pressure - the volume increases and the pressure decreases, and temperature stays the same.

With filling a tank, once some gas has entered the tank, any more gas entering into the tank has to do some work to compress that gas already in the tank.
 
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I agree with you: "once some gas has entered the tank, any more gas entering into the tank has to do some work to compress that gas already in the tank." and this leads me to rephrase the objection (a) written above:

a) the gas filling the evacuated tank has to do some work to compress that gas already in the tank. This work is dependent on the pressure of that gas already in the tank. However, when deriving the result that the internal energy of the gas in the tank is equal to the enthalpy of the gas in the entrance line, it is assumed that the work PV is constant, with P equal to the pressure in the entrance line.
 
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Hi Thomas
I have a little more time to give a more comprehensive answer.

Actually there are 2 ways to approach this problem: 1. by considering a control volume around the evacuated tank, and 2. considering the gas in the pipe as a system.

Since you mention work = PV = constant, that is the system approach.

So, a system boundary is put around all the gas that will enter the evacuated tank, and this will be a moving system boundary.
The gas behind the tank does work on this system, and by moving the boundaries of the system, does work of
W = -P1 V1 ( work being done on the system )

This is the same as if the gas behind the system is acting as a as piston with force F a distance x.
ie W = - F/A xA = Fx.
Perhaps if you consider that a force on a mass can move the mass a distance x at constant velocity if there is an opposing force of equal magnitude, OR accelerate the mass if there is no opposing force. The gas in a system in the line has opposing force so moves at constant velocity. The system gas entering the evacuated tank is unopposed so there should be some change from state 1 in the line to state 2 in the tank.

( PS. do not take that too too far, since gases are not solid objects. )

From the first law: 1Q2 = 2U1 + 1W2
where
1Q2 is the heat added to the system from state 1 to 2 = 0
2U1 is the change in internal energy
1W2 is the work done on the system from state 1 to 2

therefor
0 = U2 - U1 - P1V1

0 = U2 - ( U1 -P1V1 )

0 = U2 - H1

or U2 = H1

Is that how your book derived the concept?

PS. It is usually common to use specific internal energiy and enthalpy, but my latex isn't working.
 
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256bits,

Thank you very much for your time!

Your hints on
"considering a control volume around the evacuated tank and considering the gas in the pipe as a system" and
"if you consider that a force on a mass can move the mass a distance x at constant velocity if there is an opposing force of equal magnitude, OR accelerate the mass if there is no opposing force"
really opened my eyes to how to consider the problem.

I may suggest for another person facing this problem to read also the section 6.5 of Fundamentals of Thermodynamics 6th ed, by Gordon J. Van Wylen, Richard E. Sonntag, Claus Borgnakke, where it's tackled the same two ways you have described.Thomas
 

1. What is internal energy when filling an evacuated tank?

Internal energy is the total energy contained within a system, including the kinetic energy and potential energy of the particles within that system. When filling an evacuated tank, the internal energy refers to the energy of the gas particles that are being introduced into the tank.

2. How is internal energy affected when filling an evacuated tank?

When filling an evacuated tank, the internal energy of the system increases as the gas particles gain kinetic energy. This increase in internal energy is due to the work done on the gas as it is compressed and transferred into the tank.

3. Can the internal energy of a gas be measured when filling an evacuated tank?

Yes, the internal energy of a gas can be measured when filling an evacuated tank. This can be done by measuring the temperature and pressure of the gas before and after it is transferred into the tank, and then using these values to calculate the change in internal energy.

4. How does the type of gas affect the internal energy when filling an evacuated tank?

The type of gas does not have a significant effect on the internal energy when filling an evacuated tank. The internal energy is primarily determined by the temperature and pressure of the gas, rather than its chemical composition.

5. Is the internal energy of a gas constant when filling an evacuated tank?

No, the internal energy of a gas is not constant when filling an evacuated tank. As the gas is compressed and transferred into the tank, its internal energy increases due to the work being done on it. However, if the tank is insulated and no heat is exchanged with the surroundings, the internal energy of the gas will remain constant.

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