Interpreting Ambiguous HW Question on Curve Length and Surface Patch Domains

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The discussion revolves around an ambiguous homework question related to the length of a curve defined on a sphere, specifically involving the parameters \(\theta(t)\) and \(\phi(t)\). Participants are exploring the implications of the specified domains and the nature of the surface patch associated with the curve.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify the ambiguity in the problem, questioning the domains of the curve and the surface patch. Some participants suggest focusing on the given domain of \(t\) while others propose examining the maximum domain of the curve for a more comprehensive understanding.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing differing interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the domain, but no consensus has been reached on the broader implications of the surface patches.

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Participants note the lack of specified domains for the curve and the surface, raising concerns about the completeness of the problem setup. There is also mention of additional questions related to the intersections of the curve with parallels on the sphere, which may further complicate the interpretation.

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I got this HW question made up by the professor that I find ambiguous. It says

Consider the curve [itex]\theta (t)=\pi/2-t[/itex], [itex]\phi(t)=\log \cot(\pi/4-t/2)[/itex] on the sphere [itex]r(\theta,\phi)=(\sin\theta \cos\phi,\sin\theta\sin\phi,cos\theta)[/itex]

Find the length of the curve btw the points t=pi/6 and pi/4


He did not specify domains for either the curve nor the "surface" r. On one hand, if we take r to be a surface patch, this requires that the (maximum) domain be [itex]0 < \theta < \pi[/itex], [itex]0 < \phi < 2\pi[/itex]. Anything bigger and the domain is not open or r is not injective. But this surface patch does not cover the whole sphere.

I could also consider two other surface patches of the form [itex]r_{2,3}(\theta,\phi)=(\sin\theta \cos\phi,\sin\theta\sin\phi,cos\theta)[/itex] with appropriate domains, that together with r above form an atlas for the unit sphere.

Any thoughts? How would you interpret this question?
 
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I don't know what you mean. The domain is pi/6<t<pi/4. From the above relations you can get r as a function of t, and this is just some curve.
 
There is another question after that:

Find the angles of intersection btw this curve and the parallels [itex]\theta = const.[/itex]

would you still say that the curve's domain is (pi/6,pi/4)? Or would you study it more carefully to find what is the maximum domain where the curve is defined and thus find all the possible intersectino points?
 
I would stick to (pi/6,pi/4), at least for this question. If you're curious, keep going, but then you're doing more than what's asked.
 

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