Intersection of a Quadric Surface and a Plane in 3-D

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1. "Find the equation that describes the intersection of the quadric given by [itex]x^2 + y^2 = 4[/itex] with the plane [itex]x + y + z = 1[/itex]."


2. Parametric equations for elliptic curve: [itex]x = a cos(t)[/itex] , [itex]y = b sin(t)[/itex] , z = ?


3. Surface is an [EDIT: right circular] cylinder. Plane is not parallel to xy plane, has some increasing z and will not cut a circle in the cylinder. Curve of intersection of plane and elliptic cylinder will result in an elliptic curve.

3a. My first approach would be to plug in [itex]a cos(t)[/itex] and [itex]b sin(t)[/itex] for x and y respectively in the [itex]x^2 + y^2 = 4[/itex] equation.


[itex](a cos(t))^2 + (b sin(t))^2 = 4[/itex] ---> [itex]a^2(cost)^2 + b^2(sint)^2 = 4[/itex] ---> [itex]\frac{a^2(cost)^2}{4} + \frac{b^2(sint)^2}{4} = 1[/itex] ---> a = b = 2 --> [itex]x = 2cost[/itex] and [itex]y = sint[/itex]

This step confuses me since I would think that because the curve is elliptic, the a and b coefficients would differ.


3b. My second step would be to rearrange the equation of the plane to be some z = x + y + c to find the parametric equation for z.

[itex]x + y + z + (- x - y) = 1 + ( - x - y)[/itex] ---> [itex]z = - x - y + 1[/itex] ---> [itex]z = - (2cost) - (2sint) + 1[/itex]

3c. Last step would be to combine everything into parametric equations.

[itex]x = 2cos(t)[/itex] , [itex]y = 2sin(t)[/itex] , [itex]z = - 2sin(t) - 2cos(t) + 1[/itex].

I think I have the right idea, but any suggestions or guidance would be appreciated.
 
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Onionknight said:
1. "Find the equation that describes the intersection of the quadric given by [itex]x^2 + y^2 = 4[/itex] with the plane [itex]x + y + z = 1[/itex]."


2. Parametric equations for elliptic curve: [itex]x = a cos(t)[/itex] , [itex]y = b sin(t)[/itex] , z = ?


3. Surface is an elliptic cylinder. Plane is not parallel to xy plane, has some increasing z and will not cut a circle in the cylinder. Curve of intersection of plane and elliptic cylinder will result in an elliptic curve.

3a. My first approach would be to plug in [itex]a cos(t)[/itex] and [itex]b sin(t)[/itex] for x and y respectively in the [itex]x^2 + y^2 = 4[/itex] equation.


[itex](a cos(t))^2 + (b sin(t))^2 = 4[/itex] ---> [itex]a^2(cost)^2 + b^2(sint)^2 = 4[/itex] ---> [itex]\frac{a^2(cost)^2}{4} + \frac{b^2(sint)^2}{4} = 1[/itex] ---> a = b = 2 --> [itex]x = 2cost[/itex] and [itex]y = sint[/itex]

This step confuses me since I would think that because the curve is elliptic, the a and b coefficients would differ.
This is wrong. [tex]x^2+ y^2= 4[/itex] is the equation of a <b>circular</b> cylinder. It can be written as x= 2cos(t), y= 2 sin(t). Yes, its intersection with the tilted plane will be an ellipse but that is not relevant here.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> 3b. My second step would be to rearrange the equation of the plane to be some z = x + y + c to find the parametric equation for z.<br /> <br /> [itex]x + y + z + (- x - y) = 1 + ( - x - y)[/itex] ---> [itex]z = - x - y + 1[/itex] ---> [itex]z = - (2cost) - (2sint) + 1[/itex]<br /> <br /> 3c. Last step would be to combine everything into parametric equations.<br /> <br /> [itex]x = 2cos(t)[/itex] , [itex]y = 2sin(t)[/itex] , [itex]z = - 2sin(t) - 2cos(t) + 1[/itex].<br /> <br /> I think I have the right idea, but any suggestions or guidance would be appreciated. </div> </div> </blockquote> The plane, x+ y+ z= 1 can be written 2cos(t)+ 2sin(t)+z= 1 so that z= 1- 2cos(t)- 2sin(t).<br /> And that gives the parametric equations describing the intersection:<br /> x= 2cos(t)<br /> y= 2sin(t)<br /> z= 1- 2cos(t)- 2sin(t).[/tex]
 
Thank you. Don't know why I typed elliptic cylinder. I think I understand why it doesn't matter that a doesn't equal b. Since the curve of intersection is tilted by the z component anyways, it's going to be an ellipse. If the z parametric equation wasn't in effect, the curve would be a circle. I think this makes sense. Is my overall logic and procedure sound?