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Then he has to learn the necessary mathematics first. To really understand physics you cannot avoid it!Vanadium 50 said:
Introduction to Physics: Books for Non-Calculus Learners
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Discussion Overview
The discussion centers on recommendations for introductory physics books suitable for learners without a calculus background. Participants explore the feasibility of understanding physics concepts without calculus and the necessary mathematical prerequisites for studying physics effectively.
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- Debate/contested
- Conceptual clarification
- Technical explanation
- Homework-related
Main Points Raised
- Some participants suggest books like "Physics for Scientists and Engineers" by Tipler and Mosca as basic introductions that avoid heavy mathematical complications.
- Others argue that physics cannot be adequately understood without calculus, emphasizing that mathematics is essential for expressing physical concepts.
- There are requests for recommendations on books covering algebra, trigonometry, and precalculus as foundational knowledge before tackling physics.
- Some participants mention that Newtonian Mechanics requires a minimal understanding of calculus and vectors, indicating that avoiding calculus may hinder learning physics.
- Several participants inquire about the nature and content of pre-algebra, with discussions on its role as a preparatory course for algebra.
- There are mentions of online resources like Khan Academy as supplementary materials for learning mathematics relevant to physics.
- Some participants express skepticism about the possibility of learning physics without a solid foundation in algebra and arithmetic.
- There are suggestions to start with calculus-based textbooks, but questions arise about the suitability of such recommendations for those lacking basic algebra skills.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants do not reach a consensus on whether it is possible to learn physics without calculus. There are competing views on the necessity of mathematical prerequisites, with some advocating for a calculus-free approach and others insisting on the importance of calculus for a proper understanding of physics.
Contextual Notes
Some participants highlight the importance of foundational arithmetic and algebra before progressing to physics, indicating that a lack of these skills may impede success in understanding physics concepts.
Who May Find This Useful
This discussion may be useful for individuals seeking to learn physics without a calculus background, as well as those interested in understanding the mathematical prerequisites necessary for studying physics effectively.
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I want to.But i just don't know where to begin.Could someone give me a complete map of everything about the maths and physics.vanhees71 said:
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Like from The utmost basic maths(not that I need it) to calculus and physics
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Please i want to learn physics .But I just don't know where to begin and where and what to learn.
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Prof. Herbert Gross and very good explanations on elementary algebra on his website.
In which grade are you now?
In which grade are you now?
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9thAdesh said:
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What problems are you getting with your current syllabus and teachings?Neeleshatom said:
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Problems maths or real .Real nothing.
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I always score above 95 percentile and have a good understanding of the topics covered.Adesh said:
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Neeleshatom said:Please i want to learn physics .But I just don't know where to begin and where and what to learn.
Adesh said:
The typical pathway is like this with some variation depending on what and how the institution offers:Neeleshatom said:
- Basic General Arithmetic and Mathematics
- Introductory Algebra
- Geometry (Euclidean, with proofs)
- Intermediate Algebra
- Trigonometry
- College Algebra or College Algebra & Trigonometry(Pre-Calculus)
- Calculus & Analytic Geometry 1 (mostly differentiation)
- Calculus & Analytic Geometry 2 (mostly integration, maybe topics for Sequences & Series)
- Calculs & Analytic Geometry 3 (Multivariable or Intermediate Calculus)
- Some further course or more combining Linear Algebra and Differential Equations
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I give up. Good luck to you !Neeleshatom said:
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Thread closed. The OP has been given many suggestions of books or websites to study from.
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