Invariant divergence and christoffel symbols

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The discussion revolves around the concept of invariant divergence in the context of differential geometry, specifically relating to the definitions involving Christoffel symbols and the metric tensor. Participants are exploring the equivalence of two definitions of divergence and the implications of the metric tensor's properties.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to manipulate the definitions of invariant divergence and are questioning the correctness of their index summation. There is discussion about the relationship between Christoffel symbols and the derivatives of the metric tensor.

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Some participants have identified mistakes in their reasoning and are seeking clarification on the relationships between various terms. Hints have been provided regarding index summation and the properties of the metric tensor, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct guidance they can receive. There is a focus on understanding the derivatives of the metric tensor and the implications of these derivatives in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement



show that the definition of the invariant divergence

divA = 1/√g ∂i (√g Ai)

is equivalent to the other invariant definition

divA = Ai;i

Ai;k = ∂Ai/∂xk + ГiklAl

Гkij = gkl/2 (∂gil/∂xj+∂glj/∂xi-∂gij/∂xl)

Homework Equations



g is the metric tensor

hints from class:
you will have to check that Гlil = 1/√g ∂i√g

you will have to differentiate determinants

write the answer in terms of the derivative of the metric tensor and inverse metric tensor

The Attempt at a Solution



so far I have

divA = ∂Ai/∂xk + (∂gil/∂xj+∂glj/∂xi-∂gij/∂xl)Al

but i don't know if this is correct or where to go from here. Christoffel symbols are new to me, can anyone point me in the right direction?

thanks
 
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Felicity said:
so far I have

divA = ∂Ai/∂xk + (∂gil/∂xj+∂glj/∂xi-∂gij/∂xl)Al

but i don't know if this is correct or where to go from here. Christoffel symbols are new to me, can anyone point me in the right direction?

Hi Felicity! :smile:

You haven't got this index summation thing, have you? :redface:

Hint: divA is a scalar, so that line must have no uncancelled indices (every index up must be paired with itself down) …

divA = ∂Ai/∂xi + … ? :smile:
 
Thank you so much for the reply! I see my mistake now but I still have not solved the problem

I see now that

divA = 1/√g ∂i (√g Ai) = ∂Ai/∂xi + (1/√g ∂i √g )Al

which brings me to the hint

Гlil = 1/√g ∂i√g

which must be equal to

Гkij = gkl/2 (∂gil/∂xj+∂glj/∂xi-∂gij/∂xl)

when k is the same as j

So if I relabel my indices to be consistent I get the equation

Гlil = 1/√g ∂i√g = gim/2 (∂gim/∂xl+∂gml/∂xi-∂gil/∂xm)

I also learned that ∂gml/∂xi=∂gil/∂xm) so those terms cancle to give

1/√g ∂i√g = gim/2 (∂gim/∂xl)

since

∂g/∂xi = ggim(∂gim/∂x∂g/∂xl)


1/√g ∂i√g = 1/2g (∂g/∂xl)

which requires me to find the derivative of the determinant of the metric tensor, how do I do that?
 
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Hi Felicity! :smile:

The question requires you to prove that

Гlil = 1/√g ∂i√g

Hint: g is just a number, gii,

so ∂i√g = … ? :smile:
 

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