Inverse fourier troubles: e^(-j*infty)

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The discussion revolves around the inverse Fourier transform of a piecewise function defined in the frequency domain, specifically addressing convergence issues and alternative approaches to the integral involved. Participants explore the mathematical intricacies and potential pitfalls of the calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the inverse Fourier transform of a function defined as H(f) = -j for f > 0 and H(f) = j for f < 0, expressing confusion about the convergence of the limit as f approaches negative infinity.
  • Another participant suggests introducing decaying exponentials to aid convergence in the integral, indicating a potential method to resolve the issue.
  • A different participant proposes an alternative integral involving a decaying exponential, suggesting that this approach is more manageable and leads to a limit that can be evaluated.
  • One participant warns that the method of introducing decaying exponentials may not always yield correct results, particularly referencing the Fourier transform of the unit step function and noting complications at f = 0.

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Participants express differing views on the convergence of the original integral and the effectiveness of various methods proposed. There is no consensus on the best approach or resolution of the convergence issues.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations related to convergence and the behavior of functions at specific points, such as f = 0, which may affect the validity of certain methods used in the calculations.

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Hello,

I am working through Signals and Systems Demystified, but I am at an impasse.

I would like to take the inverse Fourier transform of

[tex] H(f)=\begin{cases}<br /> -j&\text{if } f > 0\\<br /> j&\text{if } f<0\end{cases}[/tex]

So

[tex] h(t) = \int_{-\infty}^{0} je^{j2\pi f t}df + \int_{0}^{\infty} -je^{j2\pi ft}df <br /> = \int_{-\infty}^{0} je^{j2\pi f t}df + \int_{-\infty}^{0} je^{j2\pi f t}df <br /> = 2\int_{-\infty}^{0} je^{j2\pi f t}df <br /> = \frac{j2e^{j2\pi ft}}{j2\pi t}|_{-\infty}^{0}[/tex]

So

[tex] h(t) = \frac{1}{\pi t} - \lim_{f \rightarrow -\infty} \frac{e^{j2\pi ft}}{\pi t}[/tex]

The book says that [tex]h(t) = \frac{1}{\pi t}[/tex] is the answer, but I don't understand how. Isn't [tex]\lim_{f \rightarrow -\infty} \frac{e^{j2\pi ft}}{\pi t}[/tex] periodic and nonconverging?
 
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You have a constant times the sign (not sine) function: sgn(f) = 1 for f >0, and -1 for f<0.

Your problem, as you point out is convergence. Why not try multiplying your function by decaying exponentials, say exp(af) or exp(-af)?
 
Hi Dyad,

Thanks for your response. Could you please give me more details? Even Mathematica hates the integral.

By the way, I am only confident that the first part is correct.

[tex] h(t) = \int_{-\infty}^{0} je^{j2\pi f t}df + \int_{0}^{\infty} -je^{j2\pi ft}df <br /> = j(\int_{-\infty}^{0} e^{j2\pi f t}df - \int_{0}^{\infty} e^{j2\pi ft}df)[/tex]

-Sam
 
What if you had

[tex] <br /> x(t) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} je^{j2\pi f t}e^{-b|f|}df[/tex]

with b real and greater than zero? This is a doable calculation.

Then, after you're done, what happens when you take a certain limit involving a?
 
Thanks for the help, Dyad!

[tex] \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}-j Sgn(f)e^{j2\pi ft}e^{-b|f|}df = \\<br /> \int_{-\infty}^{0}je^{j2\pi ft}e^{bf}df - \int_{0}^{\infty}je^{j2\pi ft}e^{bf}df[/tex]

The [tex]e^{-b|f|}[/tex] added convergence.

I ended up with

[tex] j[\frac{1}{j2\pi t+b}+\frac{1}{j2\pi t-b}][/tex]

But as b approaches 0, we get

[tex] j\lim_{b \rightarrow 0}[\frac{1}{j2\pi t+b}+\frac{1}{j2\pi t-b}]=\frac{1}{\pi t}[/tex]
 
Ok, but just be careful; this doesn't always work.

Check the Fourier transform of the unit step function; this method doesn't give you the total answer. Problems arise at f = 0.

(To do this problem, might try writing the step function in terms of the sgn function.)
 

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